@anttipeltola__dup_26767@mastodon.world
Post #292901
2026-02-08 07:44 UTC
Replies (26)
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@eivind@fribygda.no 2026-02-08 08:55
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Does it perhaps have something to do with the takeover of the managerial class, the HR people and the Professional Communicators, or has that not happened in Finland?
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@funambolo@mastodon.world 2026-02-08 08:59
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world exactly. It is also absurd how the public sector believes it is ok to pay hundreds of millions of euros to U.S. companies instead of probably spending a fraction of that money build their own solution based on existing open source code and open standard.
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@frederik@ohai.social 2026-02-08 09:58
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world @ucas@dudo.social Here's a similar toot with some good takes on the situation (though not specifically aimed towards Finland): https://hsnl.social/@eloy/116003176888188762
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@nini@oldbytes.space 2026-02-08 10:16
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world I'm guessing in the intervening 30 years the MBA set came in and stripped all that "thinking" nonsense because it wasn't profitable and you could outsource it for cheap. It's not only learned helplessness, it's decimating institutional knowledge because some beancounters thought it cost too much to maintain it, happens frequently with many social pillars that are hollowed out by capitalists.
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@kongakong@masto.ai 2026-02-08 11:13
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.
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@BackFromTheDud@mas.to 2026-02-08 11:14
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world sounds like complacency and laziness to me, but I am lazy and complacent.
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@geliga@mastodon.world 2026-02-08 11:28
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world come on Europe, I believe you can do that.
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@openfactory@peering.social 2026-02-08 12:17
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world not just Finland. I'd say most of europe?
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green 2026-02-08 12:51
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Learned helplessness = The boring end of authoritarianism. Submission.
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@jeffalyanak@social.rights.ninja 2026-02-08 13:48
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Unfortunately, this isn't really a technical problem, it's a policy problem. Organizations certainly have the technical capabilities to replace these tools, but the network effect is hard to break unless you're compelled to do so.
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@unicandun@retro.pizza 2026-02-08 15:22
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world It makes me so sad to see this is true elsewhere... I truly thought it was a local problem for us 😞
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@FknHannu@zeroes.ca 2026-02-08 17:25
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world my state government is doing this for everything. Handing ot over to contractors then claing ignorance on issues of medical licensure, license plate renewal, etc
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@contaminase@wandering.shop 2026-02-08 17:45
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Microsoft DreamsPark/Azure Tools for Teaching. Let's put it this way: for past 15 years, life science graduates with pretty advanced degrees can't do a non-linear regression unless there is a specific 1000 EUR per year per user software package provided.
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@tuban_muzuru@beige.party 2026-02-08 17:57
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Also Finland: ( seen in Turku ) a young man in his 20s ordering a coffee with his phone. He is sitting two meters from the counter.
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@foolishowl@social.coop 2026-02-08 18:03
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world When I've read histories of computers and programming, I was surprised how often Finnish universities were mentioned. This also sounds like what's happened with universities in the US. In the 90s, a lot of significant software was developed and supported by universities and government-funded research organizations. But universities ended up outsourcing their IT.
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@iriyan@kolektiva.social 2026-02-08 18:16
#Finland B 4 NATO and Finland after Linux before Trovalds became a millionaire and after ... he moved to FB-land @anttipeltola@mastodon.world
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@tommi@jontka.fi 2026-02-08 19:41
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world found it! https://jontka.fi/@tommi/116011921642382637
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@WorldTravelerAll7@mastodon.world 2026-02-08 21:54
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world I would think if any country could do it, Finland could Finland already has the best open instance of #Friendica in English govts could do like France & make all employees be off certain platforms that collect data they could even subsidize an instance of an opensource friend app for citizens reaching out individually to get a friend to switch platforms rarely works. We could set up a #meta mass exodus day people will go where their friends & people go
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@union@mu.zaitcev.nu 2026-02-09 01:17
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world But there's no connection between that and getting hoodwinked into NATO because the population is this dumb.
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@0xtero@ohai.social 2026-02-09 07:01
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world the early 90s Internet in the NORDUnet space was so excellent. Plenty of great things coming out of universities during that time. Visiting some of these places now, they’re all rumning on either Google or O365 and American social media. IT departments don’t work with the faculties anymore. Etc etc
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@Monocat@mastodon.art 2026-02-09 07:22
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world I was thinking the other day that a step to securing an open internet would be for a collaborative state organisation such as the European Union to organise and fund an explicitly non-political org for the creation and management of an open standards browser (with plugins framework)
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@rails@fosstodon.org 2026-02-09 07:47
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world Meanwhile a certain Finnish student:
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@RevSPLR@dobbs.town 2026-02-09 08:12
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world No niin.
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@AVincentInSpace@furry.engineer 2026-02-09 08:18
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world in fairness, when you want to do public communications, you can't ask the public to come to you
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@nettings@mastodon.social 2026-02-09 09:27
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world German universities in 2002: we use Java on Windows because it was there. German universities today: we don't understand the problem, we use X and Tiktok, plus you can follow a small subset of classes on MS Teams.
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@mlabowicz@hachyderm.io 2026-02-09 12:49
@anttipeltola@mastodon.world hard to vibe code an os Kernel...