@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org

Post #2524971

2025-06-24 13:56 UTC

have The Talk with your friends: no, artificial intelligence isn't real now, nor is it just around the cornerwe need laws to prevent capitalists using LLMs to try to circumvent labor laws; we don't need laws to stop "rogue AI" because that's sci-fi bullshit with absolutely no bearing on realityno, "ai" is not "inevitable" -- the bullshit word extruders that are being positioned as the next big thing right now are snake oil garbage, and not even profitable snake oil garbage, and there's no path to develop them into anything else because that's just how they workif you hear someone talking about how "ai" is going to change everything, treat them the same way you'd treat a scientologist talking about whatever the fuck scientologists believe in: it is bullshit cult nonsense for marks and rubesremind them to ponder the question of "cui bono" -- who benefits from the narrative that "ai" is the "next big thing"? the answer: mostly filthy rich american fascists, filthy rich chip manufacturers, filthy rich data center operators, and filthy rich silicon valley entrepreneursdo your part to counter bullshit fucking propaganda from capitalist scumbags 👍 Edit: this seems to have resonated with a lot of people and I've rejected a lot of nonsense replies or people being contrarian and annoying :dancing_baby: I don't care if you disagree! Write your own post about it! :')

Replies (18)

@lednaBM@stranger.social 2025-06-24 16:31

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Agreed!

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@KayOhtie@blimps.xyz 2025-06-24 16:44

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org God the mention of 'inevitable' had me realizing that that's been said about several things...and industries crop up in the wake of those every time to profit on undoing it. Biggest that comes to mind is "insourcing" (barf), the industry of domestic callcenter outsourcing that took over in the wake of how cheap companies were getting with overseas call center outsourcing. Like plenty still do but a LOT of companies returned to domestic call centers after in the wake of the negativity. If anything is inevitable it's an entire industry around undoing the holes companies got themselves into foot-gunning on AI garbage, whether that's through artists to do new art, talent firms hiring developers to replace generative "coders", and probably many more.

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@the5thColumnist@mstdn.ca 2025-06-24 17:32

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Yet people still believe wasting massive amounts of energy and water to do meaningless computer calculations that create nothing creates real wealth.

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@Loucovey@newsie.social 2025-06-24 17:44

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Just a reminder to all: Approximately $5 trillion in market capitalization was lost during the dot-com bust by the end of the stock market downturn in 2002. This significant loss occurred after the peak of the bubble in March 2000.

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@fluffgar@mastodon.scot 2025-06-24 17:47

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Is this a pattern? In the 1930s the fascist "elite" were obsessed with similarly fantastical bullshit.

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@graymiller@me.dm 2025-06-24 18:27

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org I keep trying to have versions of this conversation with people I know and they just shake their heads and show me a conversation that “proves” ai is really smart. Le sigh.

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@alcinnz@floss.social 2025-06-24 18:53

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Sigh, they won't listen! Yet people keep asking! I'm sick of it!

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@Jojonintendo@floss.social 2025-06-24 20:01

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Exactly. One could think we'd have learned from previous propaganda like bitcoin, NFT, etc... But no, Silicon Valley's propaganda machine just never stops.

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@negative12dollarbill@techhub.social 2025-06-24 22:17

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org The idea that the “AI” we have now will eventually turn into genuine artificial intelligence is so ridiculous. It doesn't matter if you keep climbing K2 better and better, you never get to the top of Everest. It's a different mountain. It's impossible.

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@gizmonicus@defcon.social 2025-06-24 23:03

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org I forget who said it but a quote that really resonated with me is "AI is one of the most extreme examples of technology being done to us, not for us"

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@TonyVladusich@mathstodon.xyz 2025-06-25 09:06

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org friends don't let friends fall for the ai grift 🤣

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@stfn@fedi.stfn.pl 2025-06-28 16:45

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org thank you, this post is fire

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@nikku4211@peoplemaking.games 2025-06-29 18:45

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Yup. I really hate how genAI slop is even infecting the retro game dev spaces I otherwise hold dear. It's so shameful that companies push it so much when it's not very sustainable and so many people already got their hooks onto the hype train at this point that they're very blind to it.

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@troed@masto.sangberg.se 2025-06-24 15:58

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Sure, but what's the source behind your statements?

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@patmikemid@sfba.social 2025-06-24 15:33

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org “I’ve been drinking from a firehose of AI for the last two days and it is amazing.” My boss, who is the CEO, on a team call, yesterday afternoon. ME: “Come on giant meteor.”

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@haaflife@ohai.social 2025-06-24 14:52

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org I personally find the most important part of The Talk to acknowledge that LLMs can do certain things reasonably well, e.g. translating texts or pictures. That is the number one argument of people caught in the cult ("but I can do ... with it") and stops them from understanding that there is no intelligence involved

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@MHS_Jenkins@floss.social 2025-06-24 14:45

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org Also, while we have your attention: there is no "cloud". Thank you tobi for writing both bugs and truth.

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@nlupo@amikejo.xyz 2025-06-24 14:01

@dumpsterqueer@gts.superseriousbusiness.org I don't care whether AI is inevitable or not. Capitalism and monopoly is not! Their unethical business model is not equal to AI.

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