Post #1846010
2025-11-20 07:37 UTC
Replies (25)
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@bonkers@nerdculture.de 2025-11-20 07:57
@henk@waag.social it just means that we stick to the pre-qualcomm hardware which was cloned by hundreds of makers, and choose some other architecture for new hardware. Raspberry pi, for example.
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@azonenberg@ioc.exchange 2025-11-20 09:04
@henk@waag.social It's been more than six hours since the acquisition, and it's Qualcomm we're talking about. I'm surprised it took this long.
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@sol_hsa@mastodon.gamedev.place 2025-11-20 10:11
@henk@waag.social qualcomm has *a lot* of lawyers. I would have been surprised if this didn't happen.
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@gimulnautti@mastodon.green 2025-11-20 10:16
@henk@waag.social ”open source” as in ”we take everything from you” and give nothing back
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@pa27@mastodon.social 2025-11-20 10:31
@henk@waag.social The expected enshittification... Sad.. Like to see them make the reverse engineering clause stand in law.
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@ednl@mastodon.social 2025-11-20 11:08
@henk@waag.social I took immediate action.
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@Disputatore@masto.pt 2025-11-20 11:18
@henk@waag.social I don't see how you can prevent that. Arduino was a concept created by 4 people. At a certain point they decided they were fine with selling it. And they did. They owned the concept and sold it. The only people who could have safe guarded the "open-hardware ethos" were the creators. The only way to "future-proof models for open-source hardware" is to forbid inventors from selling their inventions. Does that sound like a legitimate option and something that will encourage creativity?
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@danbrotherston@types.pl 2025-11-20 12:00
@henk@waag.social You know...lawyers do this in the name of "protection"...I wonder if anyone with an MBA or a Law degree is even capable of understanding the absolute destruction this change brings to their brand.
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@byteborg@chaos.social 2025-11-20 12:27
@henk@waag.social risc-v?
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@tretron@bark.lgbt 2025-11-20 13:16
@henk@waag.social
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@EnaWasHere@tech.lgbt 2025-11-20 13:59
@henk@waag.social "what do our customers like about our products?" "How open they are." "Ok, then, what if we don't do that? That surely has to improve profits."
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@cibersheep@mastodont.cat 2025-11-20 13:59
@henk@waag.social Qualcomm has never been a good company. Ever. This news feels terrible, though
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@cainmark@mstdn.social 2025-11-20 14:02
@henk@waag.social Enshittification again. Cory Doctorow's book is about the present as well as the past.
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@fionasboots@tech.lgbt 2025-11-20 14:05
@henk@waag.social well, time to invest in cutlery as there is going to be a rush on forks ;-)
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@fionasboots@tech.lgbt 2025-11-20 14:10
@henk@waag.social On a more serious note, definitely time to horde as many PDIP packaged "open" microcontrollers/CPUs as possible! Soon the hardware will be impenetrable garbage and DIY projects will be discouraged. Shame I never managed to get 68k CPUs but I do have 6502, Z80, and some ATmega328 ... everything I have (including some PICs but not tried these yet) are supported by https://sdcc.sourceforge.net/ ... maybe time to donate to that project too!
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@nbeeson@mastodon.social 2025-11-20 16:33
@henk@waag.social damn, this makes me very sad. I learned to program back in high school on an Uno. Its the end of a fondly remembered era.
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@Kadin2048@mefi.social 2025-11-20 17:14
@henk@waag.social Wow, they really decided to speedrun the enshittification process. The "Arduino" brand will probably end up tainted, but I don't see why the community can't fork the last pre-Qualcomm version of the toolchain and preserve the ecosystem, even if it has to be under a different name. (Freeduino? Libduino? Hopefully someone can come up with something better...) It's not like they can retroactively close off the releases that were already open source, they can only do it going forward, as they try to build more shitty corporate "cloud" features into the IDE. There's nothing special about the Arduino-brand hardware, though. The concept of a really cheap dev board (as opposed to the $250+ ones traditionally made by for commercial developers) was a game-changer in its time, but now there are lots of them, including from Adafruit, and the barrier to producing new ones is a lot lower than in the past. The challenge will be steering new users away from the "brand name" hardware/cloud.
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@azukuni@furry.engineer 2025-11-20 17:40
@henk@waag.social There already is one that is better, its called RISC V
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@d1@autistics.life 2025-11-20 17:44
@henk@waag.social booo, #Qualcomm
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@sterophonick@wetdry.world 2025-11-20 18:44
@henk@waag.social putting this much capitalist horseshit around a microcontroller of all this is... a choice
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@mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org 2025-11-20 18:55
@henk@waag.social /cc @Teckids@bildung.social
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@NF6X@oldbytes.space 2025-11-20 19:26
@henk@waag.social Having worked at Qualcomm through acquisition and seen it from the inside, this does not surprise me. Still, the mask came off more quickly than I expected. I'm interested in seeing what platform ends up filling the niche that Arduino just abandoned?
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@astridpoot@mastodon.social 2025-11-20 19:27
@henk@waag.social arch
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@zeno4ever@mastodon.social 2025-11-20 19:57
RE: https://waag.social/@henk/115580877488202716 @henk@waag.social That was quick, to bad this is the result of the takeover of #arduino #opensource community
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@henk@waag.social 2025-11-21 22:13
Arduino team response: "Let us be absolutely clear: we have been open-source long before it was fashionable. We’re not going to change now. The Qualcomm acquisition doesn’t modify how user data is handled or how we apply our open-source principles." https://blog.arduino.cc/2025/11/21/the-arduino-terms-of-service-and-privacy-policy-update-setting-the-record-straight/