Post #149163
2026-01-22 13:03 UTC
Replies (19)
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@balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2026-01-22 13:13
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim
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@marcos@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 13:23
Historically, almost all social progress has come from stopping before you kill your oppressor and making him reorganize the system in a way that works better. Just killing the oppressor usually only gives you another one a short while later. Also historically, a small minority of oppressors ever accepted a truce where they reorganize the system. And killing the ones that didn’t let people run the dice again with a new one.
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@Rooskie91@discuss.online 2026-01-22 13:27
Cycles of violence.
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@gustofwind@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 13:33
The oppressors are well armed and well organized through the time and battle tested bureaucratic institutions of the state
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@Janx@piefed.social 2026-01-22 15:12
If we’re fine with resorting to violence to get what we want, we’re no better than them. If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same… BUT, this doesn’t mean we should never, ever resort to force as a final, last, desperate act, but only when there’s no other option.
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@WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2026-01-22 16:24
Because I can’t afford to even travelbfar enough to give them a visit, for starters.
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@seggturkasz@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 16:56
Like we never tried this shit before… So who is the one deciding who gets taged as oppressor? Designate a “benevolent” dictator, or you vote on it, or just give everybody guns and make it a free for all? Do you murder the oppressor’s children as well because they benifited from their perents behavior? Where do you draw the line, who is an oppressor? Your boss, the cop doing her job, the train ticket expecting dude, someone stoping desperet people from shoplifting from her store? What is wrong with you people? This is how some of the worst atrocities start.
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@Hlodwig@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 17:00
Bruh, you dont even have to use violence, if everyone stopped working, paying taxes and consuming anything that the bare minimum for survival, the country would collapse in less than a month.
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@realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2026-01-22 17:55
sips tea Ah … come, sit with me for a moment. The tea is hot, and such questions are best answered slowly, with a warm belly. It is natural to feel anger when one has been wronged. Even the gentlest river becomes violent when dammed for too long. But we must be careful, my friend, not to mistake the force of our feelings for the wisdom of our actions. You ask why one should not kill their oppressors. The answer is not because they are strong, nor because they deserve mercy, nor because the world would punish you. It is because when you choose to do evil in the name of justice, you quietly invite that evil to live inside you. And once it is settled there, it does not leave easily. You may believe you are striking only your enemy, but violence has a poor sense of direction. It spills into the soul, changing the person who wields it. The moment you decide that a “good reason” excuses a cruel act, you teach your heart that cruelty can be justified. Soon, it will begin to justify itself. Oppression is a heavy chain, but hatred forges a second one, but this time around your own spirit. If you destroy another to feel free, you may discover that freedom never arrived, and only the destruction remained. True victory is not standing over your enemy’s body. True victory is refusing to become what hurt you. It is choosing a path that allows you to look at yourself in the mirror without turning away. The right reasons lose their meaning when they are carried by wrong actions. Like tea made with poisoned water, no matter how fine the leaves, the cup will only bring sickness. So no - do not kill your oppressors. Not for their sake, but for yours. Because the most important battle is not against them, but against the part of yourself that believes goodness can be built from blood.
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@Etterra@discuss.online 2026-01-22 18:21
Because I’ll end up getting arrested. I’m not lucky enough for a quick death.
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@Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2026-01-22 18:26
Okay here’s an opinion that’ll get me down voted to oblivion but here goes: Violence is like symptom management. If you’re hurting, seriously injured etc. get that morphine. But keep using it and it becomes dependency. It’s a short term solution to one specific problem and rarely solves the underlying causes. Unless you can do that, you’ll be back to using violence as symptom management. Only the next time you’ll need more of it, just like heroin.
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@E_coli42@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 22:53
motherfuck turning the other cheek
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@s23b@programming.dev 2026-01-22 23:00
That’s about the least Iroh thing to say. Congrats for the quality shitpost I guess.
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@wpb@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 23:18
This is silly. Everyone knows, historically, you stop opressors by asking nicely. Maybe go into the street in a funny costume or something, organize a singalong. Violence is what the baddies do.
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@epicthundercat@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 23:22
Naw write then a STRONGLY worded letter. That would have fixed Hitler and Mussolini.
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@abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-22 23:32
Because they can’t suffer if they’re dead.
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@khaleer@sopuli.xyz 2026-01-23 00:01
I mean, stripping oppressor of his power and letting him live “normally” is the cruelest thing you can do for such pitty people.
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@DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-23 06:25
“But I can’t just KILL Ozai! wHaT aBoUt wHaT tHe mOnKs tAuGhT mE?” -The “hero” of the story lmfao (yes I get it, it’s supposed to be a kids show, but still…)
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@Stern@lemmy.world 2026-01-23 10:06
“If you kill a killer the number of killers in the world is unchanged” “So I should kill multiple killers” “Hol’ up”