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Post #1189877

2026-01-22 13:23 UTC

Historically, almost all social progress has come from stopping before you kill your oppressor and making him reorganize the system in a way that works better. Just killing the oppressor usually only gives you another one a short while later. Also historically, a small minority of oppressors ever accepted a truce where they reorganize the system. And killing the ones that didn’t let people run the dice again with a new one.

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  • @ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2026-01-22 17:13

    What historical events ended the way you say? None seem to come to mind. Unless the corruption is systemic, like the Romans and Spartans, removing the problem typically solves the problem for a few generations.

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  • @Riverside@reddthat.com 2026-01-22 18:19

    Historically, almost all social progress has come from stopping before you kill your oppressor The Soviets murdered the Romanov family, and afterwards rose life expectancy from 28 to 65, had the fastest industrialization in human history, defeated Nazism, gained universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, eliminated homelessness and abolished unemployment. Europe mostly half-ass copied some of those policies because the capitalists were afraid of a revolution and have to give many concessions to the organized workers of Europe, hence why this progress did not happen simultaneously in the USA, far from Soviet influence. This is because killing your oppressor while creating worker councils who decide democratically how society should progress is a valid strategy for emancipation. No power vacuum if people take that power.

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