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Post #1122209

2026-04-13 06:22 UTC

If the Pope is now considered part of the radical left, I think we need to look at just how far the overton window has moved.

Replies (35)

  • @Oink@neopaquita.es 2026-04-13 07:13

    @robertpi@functional.cafe considered by Trump, who does not think, only reacts.

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  • @aguVV@masto.es 2026-04-13 07:17

    @robertpi@functional.cafe people trying to convince us that the radical right is the center. 😂 🙈

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  • @Ulmo@masto.es 2026-04-13 07:35

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Given the current climate, one might say that being wicked and depraved is typical of the right, whilst fighting against it – or simply pointing out what is wrong – is a left-wing stance. If that is the new reality (which I don’t think is all that new), then I must be a radical left-winger.

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  • @apenkop@mstdn.social 2026-04-13 07:40

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Moved? It was stretched. The left border is pushed further to the left but with little success. The right border almost leaves the Solar System.

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  • @rrb@infosec.exchange 2026-04-13 08:16

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Doesn't that make the 6 Catholic Supreme Court JUSTICES far left? How do they feel about this?

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe I mean, taking away the dishonest way the Americans use the words 'radical left'...this Pope is far more openly left wing than his predecessors, and supports real leftist positions. This isn't an overton window thing, this is the fact that a committed Christian in a position of authority is willing to speak the truth, that following Christ's way is incompatible with the disgusting economic system promoted by loudly 'Christian' countries. To me, that's a much more important shift.

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  • @Nowhereman@troet.cafe 2026-04-13 08:48

    @robertpi@functional.cafe I guess Overton left the window market a while ago and is now in the whirlpool business.

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe Someone needs to start quoting Jesus without saying it's Jesus to Trump to see if he condemns him as radical left too. The stuff about rich men not entering heaven etc (and before anyone says it, the "eye of a needle" is not a mistranslation about narrow gates, it really did mean the eye of a needle).

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  • @lokjo@mapstodon.space 2026-04-13 09:54

    @robertpi@functional.cafe The german CDU is doing this a lot, usually following a US agenda. When you swift the window in the right-side direction: - the 'left' becomes 'extreme left' BUT more importantly - the 'extreme-right' becomes the 'right'.

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  • @miketango@chaos.social 2026-04-13 10:12

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Antifapope

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe on the other hand, there is a far-left current within catholicism. For example that book, *Le Christ rouge*, by the Christian philosopher Guillaume Dezaunay. https://editions-salvator.com/exegese-et-philologie-biblique/11884-le-christ-rouge-nul-ne-peut-servir-deux-maitres-vous-ne-pouvez-pas-servir-a-la-fois-dieu-et-largent-mt-6-24-a-travers-les-nombre.html

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  • @glutto@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 10:19

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Trump has his own bible! Who does this "Pope" guy think he is?!? :thaenkin:

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe He is not. Only nazi's consider him that. Stop making their opinions the norm.

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  • @clickhere@mastodon.ie 2026-04-13 10:23

    @robertpi@functional.cafe All we need to do is apply the horse-shoe theory, and - voiilà - the Overton window is now on the radical left, and all.

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  • @faab64@todon.eu 2026-04-13 10:53

    @robertpi@functional.cafe When mainstream is Nazi, anyone who's not a Nazi is called left. Doesn't mean they have any politics worth defending. He is a conservative religious authority and the head of the worst criminal enterprise in human history.

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  • @the_heruman@fediscience.org 2026-04-13 11:05

    @robertpi@functional.cafe And that the victory of a populist, conservative party in Hungary is considered a victory for progressives... 🫣

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  • @Dgm187@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 11:12

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Trump has obliterated the Overton window.

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  • @js@mastodon.nl 2026-04-13 11:35

    @robertpi@functional.cafe The fact that the pope is now antifa shows the same (except that the institutional church has a bit of a lag).

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  • @Robo105@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 11:42

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Moved? or been moved?

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  • @Leepvogel@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 12:00

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Well ... far enough to consider the victory of a rightwing politician in Hungary a good thing.

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  • @praetor@mstdn.social 2026-04-13 12:00

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Well, it's important because it creates another "them". Which erodes GOP support. I was raised Catholic, and Catholics cannot stand Protestants - especially Evangelical ones. Like this is how bad it is. I dated a guy who was Baptist...another MAN...and my mother was not upset it was a gay relationship. She was upset because he was Protestant. I mean, I'm pagan and can't stand them. It's that engrained. And there are 1.4 BILLION Catholics. They're running out of buddies.

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  • @jpaskaruk@growers.social 2026-04-13 12:01

    @robertpi@functional.cafe He is my natural enemy, but currently is possibly my greatest and most powerful ally.

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  • @atlovato@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 12:04

    @robertpi@functional.cafe - Absolutely.

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  • @falcennial@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 12:27

    @robertpi@functional.cafe no. you would need only ask the question you have always needed to ask from the very beginning, which is: who is it that you, personally, have been empowering to do the considering.

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  • @Sonikku@techhub.social 2026-04-13 13:16

    @robertpi@functional.cafe @Precis@techhub.social they’ve called FOX NEWS leftist for a while. Fuckin Tucker Carlson was catching shit for being too far left. Up is down, left is right, war is peace.

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  • @hllizi@hespere.de 2026-04-13 13:45

    @robertpi@functional.cafe I think that, while your conclusion is correct, being called "radical left" by Trump isn't really evidence of anything as such. And did many others call him that?

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe Don't you see how woke the catholic church is?!

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe From where I'm standing, the Overton window is less of a window lately and more of a bar that is in hell.

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  • @cynblogger@sfba.social 2026-04-13 15:08

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Or just reject the entity doing the consideration. 🙄

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe The papacy, like all autocracies, can have humanitarian or brutal leaders depending on the chance succession. I think 'no kings' sums it better.

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  • @Alter_Mann@mastodon.social 2026-04-13 15:57

    @robertpi@functional.cafe Der Papst hat nichts anderes gesagt, als was man in seinem Job sagen muß. -> Evangelium! Es müssen ja nicht alle den selben Glauben haben. Die halten sic natürlich nicht ans Evangelium.

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  • @burnitdown@beige.party 2026-04-13 16:57

    @robertpi@functional.cafe i wouldn't be so quick to say that. the Vatican still has a lot to answer for and make reparations. like career cops who suddenly had an epiphany that what they do is completely immoral, apologies and change in tone aren't enough to make up for the damage done.

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  • @mrundkvist@archaeo.social 2026-04-13 20:39

    @robertpi@functional.cafe That barefoot Roman-era preacher from the Galilee was a dirty pinko Commie. Ask any Southern Baptist.

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  • @janantos@f.cz 2026-04-14 10:35

    @robertpi@functional.cafe in that case Europe is far left radical by design :-)

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  • @robertpi@functional.cafe The moment it makes full circle that's when WW3 starts. I think we are just a couple of months away.

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