@mu @mathew @AlSweigart Yeah you know Mu, I think your from NZ right - you are blessed with good govourning there and dont seem to have a serious right wing issue I lost count of bad eggs in Europe and the UK and now the US in the last decade So maybe the real problem is education - school at home or society in general I dont want to get rid of people and totally get people go into politics from a perspevctive of care. But politics in the North seems art of division not togetherness IMHO