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@stardust@fosstodon.org
@stardust @mhoye Nope, also completely deranged afterwards. He's not been working for RH for years and making a retroactive connection for something some marketing ass did years later to say "hurr durr maybe death threats for systemd are okay" with a milk toast denial of not condoging this, but *wink wink* it's context, is just vile.
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@Foxboron@chaos.social To be fair, that is a better place to be in than forgetting to turn on the firewall.
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@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io To be fair, good Friday is a bit of a misnomer, I think that Jesus guy really had a bad one there.
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@kobold@orthographieanarchist.de
@kobold@orthographieanarchist.de @javalsai@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social I'm sorry, I don't see your argument.
Policies to require real names on the internet obviously need to be stopped, but that is again a political fight to win.
On the API level your browser can already ask for your OS for your name and has been able to for as long as browsers exist.
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@javalsai@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social @kobold@orthographieanarchist.de In the end, userdb is just a db that offers a common API for desktops. The layer for sandboxing and policy is above that in the desktops and flatpak.
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@javalsai@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social @kobold@orthographieanarchist.de I'm sorry, but I disagree with that particular line. The already existing API with getpwnam reading from passwd offers name, phone number, location and is somewhat open-ended afterwards. Just add comma-separated stuff.
I also disagree with dispersing PII over all programs. It makes it harder to control access, since you might not even know what's stored where, and it gets people used to entering everything everywhere.
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@javalsai@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social @kobold@orthographieanarchist.de That's a slippery slope argument. For age-related info, there is legitimate use, e.g. for parental control. For certain other PII there is no legitimate use. This is better argued than I could here in this post to the mailing list https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2026-March/052087.html
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@javalsai@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social @kobold@orthographieanarchist.de Nothing *is* stopping governments and big tech from enforcing age verification except for political activism. What you want is a technological solution for a societal problem. You're simply barking up the wrong tree.
If you don't want apps to read an age field, assuming it is set, you will need sandboxing. If you don't sandbox, apps can simply look at all your other data and deduce your age and more. But if you sandbox, you're still in control of access to this field
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@nixCraft@mastodon.social @kobold@orthographieanarchist.de Get a grip on reality. It's a field in a JSON. Your name is in passwd. Every program on any Linux or BSD can call getpwnam.
Nobody forces you to set either. There is no enforcement mechanism and no verification, but there are legitimate uses for either, as there are legitimate interests in not setting either.
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@bluca@fosstodon.org @sammy@cherrykitten.gay @Yuvalne@433.world @rfc1036@hostux.social To be fair, that's something, I notice, needs to be pointed out to people. I've now seen multiple people telling me they've never heard of Lunduke (those fortunate people!)
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@sammy@cherrykitten.gay @Yuvalne@433.world @rfc1036@hostux.social Regarding legitimate uses I'll point to this post on the mailing list https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2026-March/052087.html
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@sammy@cherrykitten.gay @Yuvalne@433.world @rfc1036@hostux.social The opposition to the laws is good and that's the important thing that must be won.
Yes, there has also been criticism about compliance from (queer) leftists and looking at the current state of politics in much of the Western world, especially towards queer people, I absolutely understand the fear.
Ultimately, I do not share it here. A birthday or age field has legitimate uses, like the name field in userdb and passwd, that I personally find more sensitive.
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@sammy@cherrykitten.gay @Yuvalne@433.world @rfc1036@hostux.social Not really. Lunduke has been whipping up a frenzy and that has filtered through. While there is obviously real and good opposition to age verification, a lot of the direct vitriol and threats on the basis of a field in a JSON, seems to come from that direction.
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