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@BoysenberryCider @Burn_this_ @Daojoan That graphic appears to show that a flat white is indeed a latte with less foam

@satsuma@dice.camp @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social It's also relevant to note that the apparent rise in attendance was believed to be in modern charismatic churches i.e there was no contradiction with a reduction in attendance (or giving as a proxy for attendance) at the CoE

@satsuma@dice.camp @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social Why they were happy to see the opposite is obvious. Why they thought they could see the opposite is the aforementioned supposedly robust survey. They were incorrect, but that doesn't mean they had nefarious intent.

@satsuma@dice.camp @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social Perhaps. Hard to get the number though. "Should have done a different survey" is a very different criticism to "You falsified that survey"

@satsuma@dice.camp @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social They're not a church? And you'd assume one is a representative sample, rather than a (they were informed) actual representative sample by a respected polling company?

@GeofCox@climatejustice.social @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social Interesting. Where did they attempt to cover their backs?

@GeofCox@climatejustice.social @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social Repeatedly asking for assurances doesn't seem like "uncritically"

@GeofCox@climatejustice.social @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social I disagree. Another party was telling them they thought the numbers were wrong. The Bible Society had asked YouGov the same questions, and had received repeated assurances. The failure was trusting YouGov, not being dishonest.

@satsuma@dice.camp @CrypticMirror@mstdn.social The Christians questioned the results because they thought they looked unlikely, YouGov repeatedly insisted they were accurate. Understandably, the Christians got quite excited about that. Very awkward and deflating for them to find out they were misled.

@CrypticMirror@mstdn.social Where does this article say it was fraudulently manipulated by evangelical Christians? YouGov carried out the research, they're a reputable secular polling company. People paid by YouGov to fill in the survey misrepresented themselves. Unless you've got evidence those people were somehow selected or manipulated by evangelicals, you should correct your claim.