forestbeasts

Oh, nah, that’s just my name!


We’ve literally never even heard of Avantris, so yeah, I didn’t get the reference. :3

Huh? My fucking legs?


– Frost

From what we’ve heard, the neo-Nazis and suchlike tend to use “degenerate” on anyone they don’t like.


Particularly us furries.


– Frost

I bet this happens because when you go back, there's some new posts at the top, so e.g. "page 2" is now a bit shifted compared to where it was before.

-- Frost

Personally, my problem with systemd is that it’s slowly trying to take over everything it possibly can, and be as hard to remove as possible.


It’s not “so you just think it’s all a single binary!”. No, I’m 100% aware it’s multiple binaries. The problem is that it’s a single project, and that’s too much power to give to one single project.


“oh but you can swap out the individual parts!” Sure. For SOME of them. Until you swap out the systemd init and suddenly have to relearn a shitton of completely random other stuff because systemd was doing a boatload of other things. Might as well get that out of the way early and use normal other projects for the other stuff, and also ditching the init system can’t hurt just to reduce their stranglehold.


Also OpenRC might be worth looking into. “systemd or Old™ Nasty™ sysv scripts” is a false dichotomy, openrc’s init scripts are declarative like systemd units (and it also supports sysv scripts). There are also totally different init systems (but we don’t know much about them, we started with systemd and then jumped to openrc recently).


– Frost

Uh, the systemd devs do.

Oh, you don’t need to go header-diving or anything. Just a client that lets you do that. Dunno if any browser-based ones do, but they certainly technically could.

psst, if you have a catchall like that, you can probably SEND from anything@yourdomain.com too! We sure can.


You just need a client that lets you type in the From field. Some do, some don’t.


– Frost

wha-


wha.


– Frost

Oh heh, yeah, o’course! I wasn’t really meaning that seriously, more just riffing off the thread of silly $HOME expansions. :3


Probably good to mention that in case someone comes along and thinks /home/$(whoami) is actually a good idea though, hah.


(Mac has normal users’ homes in /Users!!)

Sprinkle some cinnamon sugar on and pop it in the toaster oven for a couple minutes and now you've got cinnamon toast!

... Feet cinnamon toast.

-- Frost

I think they probably mean that voting for Trump precludes people from being good and kind?


– Frost

/home/$(whoami)


– Frost

Debian.

It's pretty great for desktop stuff these days. Basically Ubuntu minus the shit. Any desktop you want, it's got live installers now (several different ones with different desktops), it's got nonfree firmware on the disc, they've really upped their game.

(And if the recent systemd stuff skeeves you out, you can toss out systemd, even. It's not for the faint of heart though.)

-- Frost

(*wags tail at both PJ and Sam!!* =^.^=)


yeah! Terminal’s super useful but also kind of daunting.


If y’all haven’t seen the man pages, they make an excellent reference. Honestly, they’re basically written more as reference than as tutorial type stuff most of the time. So that’s there whenever your cheatsheet doesn’t cover something.


Also we use zsh (without plugins, you don’t need plugins) and it’s got really fancy autocomplete. We can just type - and hit tab and get a list of all the options for that command (that zsh knows about; I don’t think it goes and reads man pages for you or anything like that). I can’t remember how you turn that on but I think it’s something you can do from zsh’s initial setup wizard. I don’t know if bash can do the same thing or not, I think probably not (but we’re not super up to date on bash).


(I’d avoid fish, which you might also run into if you go looking for fancy features. It’s known for really fancy features but it’s also not compatible with normal shell scripts, which’ll screw you up if you ever want to get into scripting. zsh does normal shell script syntax (with the exception of protecting you if you forget to quote your variables) and also has really nice fancy features like the autocomplete.)


– Frost

Zelda Ocarina of Time is probably a solid contender.

Played it on our 3DS and it just felt like a worse Twilight Princess.

-- Frost

openrc’s pretty great too. Nice to write scripts for (…but writing sysvinit scripts gives you compatibility with other init systems for free, so…) and has user services and stuff.


Never tried any of the other other init systems, but there’s plenty out there!

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