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he/him · FRRouting · Junisco & Hp3Com slayer · knows more about IP routing than is healthy · moonlights in bullying electrons around a circuit board
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@djb from what I've seen, it looks pretty bad, yeah. But at this point the question is whether you want agreement on that or just the document to not get an IETF "stamp of approval". Getting the latter is much easier, at the cost of the former.
The IETF is really shit at doing "negatives", i.e. not accepting work. It's a general problem (I'm in the routing area). You can keep pushing to try to get one of those rare "no"s, but it's gonna be incredibly tedious.
It's absolutely not worth it IMHO.
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@djb this reminds me of the Star Trek episode with Data and the Zakdorn [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Peak_Performance_(episode)] where Data keep losing until he switches his strategy to a draw instead of a win. Only at that point does he not immediately lose, leaving the Zakdorn to quit in frustration.
Play for the draw.
[P.S.: I have zero fucking clue about cryptography, quantum or regular.]
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@djb I don't think you're making the right argument there. There's simply no consensus for this document. There's a lot of cases where that's a hard determination to make; a pretty even split is not one of them. If anything, showing that it is in fact even (and not biased by random drive-bys or sockpuppets), and then insisting on the conclusion of no consensus would be the way to go.
They can publish on the individual stream. The bar to cipher suite numbers is only "specification required" ffs.
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@Jay16K uh, neither the DNS protocol nor general practices or shortcomings around DNS seem to be at fault here. Pretty much any protocol, when implemented by people with insufficient understanding, will suffer bugs like this.
I mean, I'm a L3 person, I'll happily shit on DNS all day long… but not without reason?
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@cstross@wandering.shop I wish I could enjoy the laugh, but:
"Thule AB receives supplies throughout the year on military rotator aircraft and other cargo ships, however, most of the supplies and fuel are provided during Pacer Goose."
They're just too cheap to use the other options for bulk stuff.
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