Bart Piotrowski

@deimoshall@mastodon.social Some people on the team are more grumpy than others. We definitely want more reviewers and mention so on our website: https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-team-members/becoming-a-team-member#submission-reviews https://docs.flathub.org/docs/for-team-members/becoming-a-team-member#reviewer-team

@razze@osna.social An app that is considered complete or just not actively developed every other day is not the same thing as vibe-coded shit dumped on us.

I was pulling the numbers out of my ass the other day, saying that 80% of this slop is not going to stay maintained in a year, but I wasn't that far off!

Of the 120 unique repos, 32 were maintained and 88 were abandoned. No seriously, a big portion of them was completely deleted, nowhere to be found, others stopped 6 months ago, right after submitting to Flathub.

https://geopjr.dev/blog/democratizing-abandonware

We have updated Flathub's LLM policy to explicitly disallow AI usage for both the submission process and applications being submitted. https://github.com/flathub-infra/documentation/commit/992f57b30de98ddbd5e80959e9672998c83c8c97 I've had some reservations about it, so the wording before that commit was relatively milder. I know it's an unpopular opinion on the Fediverse, but I do think LLMs are inevitable, and the reality is that you can expect less organically grown code as time goes on. I believe it can be a useful tool in and outside FOSS; I hoped we will see a larger number of apps where authors made some effort beyond prompting an agent. Meanwhile, the number of unpleasant interactions I've had with entitled submitters acting as if they were bestowing their brilliant software upon us idiots who are rejecting it went through the roof in the last month. I'm tired. As always, we are not applying this retroactively, so any vibecoded apps which were already published will remain available.

Why are Flathub downloads so slow sometimes? It's probably not your fault.

https://barthalion.blog/flathub-internals-cdn-and-deltas/

@razze@osna.social chash = consistent hashing

I can't be there at Linux App Summit this year to talk about it in person, so as a consolation prize, here's the first blog post on Flathub's infrastructure, specifically CDN et al.: https://barthalion.blog/flathub-internals-cdn/

Spent more time thinking about moving Flathub out of GitHub and I probably arrived at something doable.

For CI, we just keep using GitHub Actions until we come up with something better lol. Actual pipelines are executed in flathub-infra/vorarbeiter either way, it could just stay there. We would need to extend vorarbeiter to accept webhooks from other forges and submit commit status elsewhere but that's largely it. We could eventually ask Buildkite nicely and replatform again.

flatpak-external-data-checker would need to learn how to open pull requests elsewhere. Similar thing applies to other scripts we're using here and there.

The rest is annoying legwork of figuring out how do we shift >3k repositories and collaborators elsewhere without losing maintainers. Maybe we just don't? New apps go to the new place, old apps get mirrored to the new place, maintainers can opt in to migration. :dragnthonk:

GitLab could have won by not doing anything at all but they would rather be renaming issues to work items, adding a dumb split view for the issue tracker, and working on other misfeatures no one asked for, anything but fixing 5+ years old bugs and half-assed functionality. And this doesn’t even touch the layoffs and “AI first” pivot.

GitHub not displaying files content which have unaddressed comments in the diff view, and then also collapsing review threads in the main PR view with "X hidden conversations" box is truly something. It's almost as if we made up using it for reviewing code.

but doctor, I am Pagliacci

@swags@social.treehouse.systems Oh, that's what I mean by a fun read. It's hyperbolic to a fault, with plenty of comedic effect as a side effect. It's not correct by any means if you dig into it, of course there is more nuance to Linux than "distros bad, flatpak good". Especially calling out Gentoo or NixOS doesn't feel justified, as both are more tools for building your own distro than Ubuntu remix of the week.

RE: @lobsters@mastodon.social

No one (literally no one) is actually shitting any money into Flatpak but it's a fun read.

Someone thought it's a clever idea to register Flathub organization on Codeberg without telling us, so that sure doesn't help with figuring out if we should migrate there in the first place.

Non-exhaustive list of what we're missing from Forgejo to Make Things Happen One Day:

- webhooks events emitted on pipeline status changes: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/pulls/9803
- an endpoint to dynamically register new runners: https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/forgejo-actions-feature-requests/issues/78
- be able to schedule specific jobs on specific runners: https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/forgejo-actions-feature-requests/issues/76
- a way to unregister runners: https://code.forgejo.org/forgejo/runner/issues/182

(confusingly, some of these seem implemented in the dev releases but not closed)

And then a dozen of duct tapes to actually Do The Thing, either proxying to runs-on.com or replacing it altogether.

Technically, we could switch to Forgejo for DVCS and issue tracking right away, but we would still be using GitHub for CI.

Like clockwork, the moment I leave for vacation, Flathub explodes twice. This would have been funny if it weren’t the third February in a row.

Ah yes, the two genders

land of the free, picture unrelated

@dogphilosopher Yeah, my TLDR version is sure not nuanced enough, but remains what I will stick to. Thank you for your feedback!

@tijs@social.lol Just wondering if it makes any sense to add it? Steam Deck comes with Flathub enabled by default.

Flathub team is also on #LAS2023. Come say hi!

A redesign of #Flathub is live! Drop by https://flathub.org to see all the shiny new things, such as developer verification and download graphs.

There's more under the hood, including the long awaited subsets to enable only verified or FLOSS apps. Stay tuned for more updates!