Tenniswaffles

That's a nice personal anecdote. But your personal experience has no bearing on the general pervasive attitude that been dragged on from the days when women were in fact legally the property of their fathers and then husbands. Of course this attitude has changed and evolved over time, but it's still an attitude born from a place of extreme sexism and misogyny. And the amount of men who will ask a fathers permission or expect to be asked for permission for their daughter still comes from a place of still treating women as something to be possessive over due to their gender, is way to damned high. Your personal experience doesn't change the existence of the pervasive attitude of women being possessions.

Good for you and whatever culture you come from. But your personal anecdote is more or less irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

He didn't ask because he knew a bike was coming. That was just serendipity. This attitude of asking a father permission stems from the archaic attitude that women are the property of their fathers and then their husbands.

Good for you. But whenever I hear about asking for the "parent's" permission, 99 times out of 100 it's the father they're asking.

If that's the question, why is it always the father they ask?

Wow, you’ve replied to another one of my comments in this thread after an hour, with zero prompting. You must be coming back here again and again just to pick fights. This is the point I’m making, people aren’t this passionate about defending a government and pushing propaganda unless they’re paid to do so. And if you’re not being paid… yikes.

Give me some actual flaws then. No government is without flaw, so prove that you can actually speak negatively about China. You also have fail to address the fact that many people will spend so much time and effort on arguing in Chinas favour. Everyone and their dog just seem to be waiting for the chance to write their dissertation on the benevolence of China, and yet rarely do I see the same in defence of western countries. Does that not reek of an intentional propaganda campaign to you? Not that you’ll ever admit that.

The way I see it talked about, that seems to be how a lot of people think. Every time a flaw about China is brought up there will always be someone with paragraphs upon paragraphs of denials. No matter how big or small the flaw. Which reeks of people paid to post biased propaganda, and if they’re not being paid that’s just pathetic for defending a government as vehemently as they do. I also have not once seen a person simping for China accept a specific criticism.