SuspciousCarrot78

Well, this is going to freak you out, because I am (literally, right now) explicitly scoping out offline YouTube integration into Jellyfin, as a sort of rolling library. Jellyfin has been good to me, but I’ve been using Nova Player for a while now, since my Pi borked itself (Nova player is plug hard drive into router, install app on TVs, done). The limit is that yt-dlp doesn’t integrate very well with it. I mean, I could build something, or fork the repo myself…or I could just use what already exists.

So it might be time to restore the entire *arr stack.

The TL;DR: I want one front end for ALL my media - YouTube, instructionals, movies, TV shows. That immediately speaks to Jellyfin, which I’m very familiar with. The issue is YouTube. There’s too much slop on there, I want a curated experience for the kids, SmartTube won’t work forever, and the eldest is starting to go black-hat and screw around with settings. That’s accelerating the timeline.

The stack I’m scoping:

• Jellyfin - front end for everything
• Tube Archivist - YouTube archive, metadata, download manager
• Tube Archivist Jellyfin plugin - maps channels as Shows, videos as Episodes, bidirectional playback sync
• The usual *arr stack (Sabnzbd, Sonarr, Radarr, etc.) - for maximum yarr me hearties. I’ve been downloading from 1337 like a pleb.
• Handbrake (+ usual media ripping stuff from DVD as needed)

The YT stack: rolling library logic:

• Core “keepers” - permanent, protected, not touched by auto-delete
• TA rescans subscribed channels twice a week
• Auto-delete watched videos after N days, per channel, marks them ignored so they don’t re-download
• Whole thing surfaces in Jellyfin as a YouTube-style shelf

Scoping the maths at 200GB, 30-min average per vid, using compressed modern codecs:

Planning numbers per video: assume average video is 30mins. At 360p, that’s ~100MB per video. 480p ~160MB, 540p ~220MB, 720p ~320MB.

If I have a selection of “core keepers” at 720p H.265 (~300 videos), taking up ~80GB, that leaves ~120GB for the rolling pool:

Rotating quality Rotating count Total library 360p ~1,200 ~1,500 (garbage; ok for kids cartoons) 480p ~750 ~1,050 (surprising ok) 540p ~545 ~845 (good to my eyes) 720p ~375 ~675 (very nice.)

I don’t need 4K…hell, 1080p is wasted on me. So I’m thinking…. 300 core vids at 720p + rolling library at 540p = 845 videos, give or take. More than enough to keep the fam off my back once SmartTube goes tits up (they can’t play whack-a-mole for ever).

I would prefer a clean migration to other, live sources (I have those scoped out as well) but not all the Minecraft / gaming / pretend play / blah blah stuff the family watches is on Peertube/Odysee/Curiosity Stream.

PS: I see your 480p and raise you 60, because 540p is the forbidden resolution :)

PPS: I was planning on using JF for music too…but maybe I should look at Navidrome like you said.

The crazy idea that I had was to use AI to create an infinite playlist of sorts. Seed it with your own music, get it to generate tracks in THAT style as filler, intermingle them (so there’s always something new).

Finish off with AI DJ’s that pulls in “local news” from your curated RSS feeds.

Think: Three Dog from Fallout 3.

Basically what I spoke about here -

https://lemmy.world/post/43936980/22784324

I have a pretty clear idea of how to get that done. It could be amusing.

https://huggingface.co/ACE-Step/acestep-5Hz-lm-0.6B

Well, there's a quick check. Take a shot of whisky and I'll see if can type "gottle of geer".

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I agree. God help me, I'm actually reading books again. Books. It's...harder than it use to be. A lot harder, actually. But there's something to be said about marginalia etc.

Exactly so. Mom - can we get the internet? Mom: we have the internet at home.

Batteries? I don’t need batteries. I have the never-ending warm glow of weaponized autism. And that’s not even a joke.

I tend to hyper-fixate on something until either it breaks or I do. It’s usually 70/30 in my favour :)

I'm right there with you...but may I offer an alternative narrative in two parts and then address the pipeline issue you raise. The first part: There's a small (but real) subset of people turning their back on big corpo. Retro-tech, dumb-phones, self hosting, linux, right-to-repair advocates, OSS and FOSS, privacy groups .... everyone can smell the enshittification and are (in their own ways) pushing back. That's not nothing. I think the way forward is not to play the game. Big corpo will do what big corpo always does. But we can use the tools we have to make the things we want. Will it compete with SOTA? No. But...does it need to? At an individual level, I'd argue "probably not". It just needs to work for the individual. More to the point, there's something to be said about doing more with less. Constraints can bring about real innovation. If the answer cannot be "Throw more X at it" (where X is $$$, compute, whatever)...then how can you leverage the tools and intelligence you have to build what you want? I think that's the real question. Now for the second part: >So for me the big question is, what’s our call on a possible (likely even?) future where we are forever stuck using cloud provided AI along with all of its negatives, in the same way > that basically all of us has been and still is stuck using MS windows, Google and the big-social-media hellscape? I'm more sanguine about it because I think this is down to the individual. Look at where you are now - it's not Reddit or Facebook :). You and I choose to be here because...reasons. We can choose to run Linux, LibreOffice, Mullivad, llama.cpp, SearXNG, Syncthing, Immich etc for the same reasons. I think the trick will be figuring out how to navigate from your home ecosystem into the wider world, without getting f'd in the a. The one thing I don't have a clean answer for is your pipeline point. If the content web collapses into AI slop - and it's already going that way - then the human-generated signal that makes these models worth using starts to degrade. You may need to hold onto your "Good Old LLMs" for a while yet (or start training your own from scratch. There are ways and means but that's beyond the scope of this conversation I think). In any case, individual sovereignty doesn't fix *that*. You can opt out personally and still live in a world where the epistemic commons has been strip-mined. That...probably what WILL happen, come to think of it. Ok, fine. But partial answers already exist - cryptographic provenance of human content, federated communities being structurally harder to slop-flood (maybe). Honestly? Nobody has solved that problem just yet. The people building the biggest models know it's a problem and don't have a clean answer either. Anyone who says they do is selling something. All I can say is the only way to win is not to play the game. Which WORP would no doubt meep-morp at.

The intranet *becomes* the internet :) Everything is local, accessible from multiple devices within my wLAN. The main box plugs into the router and serves everything over Wifi to trusted devices - my documents, media, books, games etc. I wrote (flippantly) about the bones of the system here, 3 or 4 months ago. It's more complex now, but the endgame has always been "what if cloud, but you are your own cloud?" https://lemmy.world/post/41315607/21438607 It may not be fresh (if the net goes down), but it *would* be local. The only real question I have to grok for myself is if I want to mirror curated section of Wikipedia, books etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwix Probably I should. May as well go full data-horder. Good excuse to get a few more TB of storage. What I've done so far is all within 4TB, using clever tricks and black magic but there's a limit to 4TB. Fortunately, hard drives are still not too $$$. +4TB is about $200 here locally. So the entire set up is still around $600-700 AUD (around $350-400 USD) All the other stuff I have more or less tee-ed up (barring the UPS + solar kit I am building later in the year). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q4dUt1yK0g Anyhow, 8TB local should just about cover what I have in mind (he said, fully aware of dragon horder sickness). Then I'll grab something for offsite storage for critical docs - I have an old raspberry pi with a 256GB NVMe ssd I can use for that. I'm semi tempted (because fuck it, why not have fun) to look into LoRA after that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa What I really NEED to do is finish the LLM stack (I'm on it and nearly done) and then do a curated Youtube replacement with yl-dlp feeding into Nova-player or Jellyfin, once/if SmartTube etc gets shit-canned. The youtube thing I'm kinda excited about because I've figured out how to squeeze ~1500 videos in around 250ish GB of storage, with TTL (time to live) mechanics, download replacement schedule etc. The kids watch too much random shit on YT, so daddy will make YT at home (ha!). I have some other wild ideas too...it's a whole other thing...don't get me started :) Once I'm finished, I will open-source the entire thing, post about it here, and let others replicate / improve on it. And so it goes. Once you begin walking down the dark path, you are forever doomed. Be careful :)

Hmm. The R9700 is RDNA4 - ROCm support for that architecture may be patchy in linux? Dunno. Check that before you commit your hard earned dollary-doos.

If all good

• Qwen2.5-Coder-32B fits comfortably and is genuinely capable.
• Qwen3.5-27B (dense)
• Qwen3.5-35B-A3B (MoE, only 3B active parameters)
• Qwen3.6-35B-A3B just dropped

Qwen 3.6 is the latest hotness. I’d start from there and work backwards

https://inv.nadeko.net/embed/YKNvkBbRJIE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKNvkBbRJIE

1. How much VRAM do you have?
2. Which GPU?
3. What sort of coding do you want to do?

No point in telling you “yo, dude, just grab MinMax 2.7 or GLM5.1”…unless you happen to have several GPUs running concurrently with a total combined VRAM pool of 500GB or more.

There are strong local contenders… (Like Qwen3-Coder-Next but as you can see, the table ante is probably in the 45GB vram range just to load them up. Actually running them with a decent context length is likely to mean you need to be in the 80-100GB range.

Do-able…but maybe pay $10 on OpenRouter first to test drive them before committing to $2000+ worth of hardware upgrades.

There are other, more reasonable, less hardware dependent uses for local LLMs, but if you want fully local coders, it’s the same old story: pay to play (and that’s even if you don’t mind slow speed / overnight batch jobs).

Right now, cloud-based providers are hemorrhaging money because they know it will lead to lock-in (ie: people will get use to what can be achieved with SOTA models, forgetting the multi-million dollar infrastructure required to run them). Then, when they realize you can’t quite do the same with local gear (at least, without spending $$$), they can ratchet the prices up.

Codex pro-plan just went to $300/month.

We’ve seen this playbook before, right?

Sadly…none. Well, I mean…it depends what you mean by “coding”. If you mean “replace Claude with local?”. Then…none. Sorry.

If you mean “actually, if I use ECA to call a cloud model from OpenRouter for planning, then have it direct a local LLM to do the scutt work”, then the Qwen series of models (like Qwen 3 Next) are pretty awesome.

The iGPU will make you want to kill yourself though. Get a GPU :) Even a 4-16GB one can make a difference.

PS: You said GPU and iGPU, so I’m not sure which one has the 32GB or what rig your running. I have suspicion though you’re running on a i5 or i7 with something like a intel 630 igpu inbuilt? In which case, the iGPU is pretty slow and depending on the exact chip, you likely won’t be able to use CUDA or Vulkan acceleration.

So, the “get a GPU” thing still holds :)

Yeah, me too :) https://bobbyllm.github.io/llama-conductor/ https://codeberg.org/BobbyLLM/llama-conductor I'm thinking about coding a >>cloud side car at the moment, with the exact feature you mentioned...but...that's scope creep for what I have in mind. Irrespective of all that, I agree: an open cloud co-op could be a good way to have SOTA (or near SOTA - GLM 5.1 is about as close as we have right now) access for when needed. (Not teaching you to suck eggs, so this comment is for the lay-reader): For coding, you can do some interesting stuff where the cloud model is the "general" and the locally hosted LLM is the "soldier" that does the grunt work. We have some pretty decent, consumer-level-hardware runnable "soldiers" now (I still like Qwen 3 coder)...they just don't quite have the brains to see the full/big picture for coding.

I'm not sure that solves the issue or just changes the actors. Still, I'm all for "fight the power". I'm just a silly man with a box of scraps. But I hope enough silly men with boxes can come together to form some sort of co-op. Maybe. I don't know. But...I hope, people smarter and better resourced than I can find a way forward. The writing is on the wall here.

I hope you're wrong. I'm worried that you're probably not. Still time. Just barely.

Hope it helps. PS: you mentioned they had an Iphone? I'm not an apple guy but is there a way to share things to their Icloud from your computer?

You mean the link I gave? Limewire isn’t “limewire” any more. It’s a drag and drop sharing website.

Drop a file, give them the URL, all good. No installation required. I’ve used it a few times. Like I said, probably don’t upload state secrets there but to share a MP4 or something, might be OK.

I dunno if I'd trust it with anything sensitive, but this might be something https://limewire.com/

That sucks but it sounds familiar. And not even a data only sim works for pure data? Are you in Oz? The only thing that I can think of is a mobile / pocket wifi...but then you're carrying two devices. If you *are* in Oz, I can suggest a reasonable, local, cheap and not terrible dumphone-with-tethering that could suit that use case (plus you know, be an actual phone lol). Suprisingly decent for under $170. Might even be able to forward calls from it to your FairPhone (as it runs Android 8.1) Once my main phone (2019 Samsung) bites the dust, it might actually become my main daily driver again (with small tabet as OTG compute)

I get where you’re coming from, but consider this: Charge advertisers to advertise? ✓ Charge viewers to skip ads? ✓ Use content creators’ essentially free labour to drive both? ✓ YouTube gets paid from every angle … while simultaneously underpaying the creators whose content makes the platform worth visiting in the first place. So how does that work with “services for free”? Why should viewers feel obligated to support that? Ad-blocking and alternative pipelines like m.youtube aren’t illegal; they’re a rational response to an exploitative system.

Huh, Pipeline. OK, I’ll look into that. No point in reinventing the wheel. I was poking around Grayjay last night and saw that a lot of extensions I had in mind had already been added, but still no lean back couch mode (at least, without casting from phone). That might work for you and I but isn’t generalizable (eg: kids, elder kin etc). If Pipeline has an android TV fork, it will save me from engineering something out of spite. PS: network effect is real but we / they forget sometimes that other things exist. YouTube is a frivolous luxury…and the quality has been sliding for a long time. It would be the work of a weekend to yt-dlp the vids I’d like to keep and then switch off. Hell, I’d set up PinchFlat to run as a cron job an d/l shit into a folder so I can watch it off line if I have to. There are (very few) actual content creators I regularly watch on YT - the rest is opportunistic crap and brain rot the kids are in to. I can engineer around all of that. The second Smarttube dies (it will; it’s too good at what it does) or the m.youtube pipe dries up, people will leave in droves. My guess - and this is a guess - is that Google is deliberately playing whack-a-mole rather than going for one giant hard lockout all at once, because too much pain too quickly risks pushing people to alternatives. Boiling frog and all that.

YouTube is too big to fail” is not the flex you think it is. No, I do not expect any one of those platforms to “become YouTube.” That is not the point. The point is reducing dependence on a platform that has spent years making itself worse because it assumes users have nowhere else to go. Fuck that and fuck them. Scale? Things do not need to match YouTube’s total global footprint to be useful. They need to serve actual human beings well enough that migration becomes viable. That is how this starts: not with 2 billion people moving at once, but with chunks of users, creators, and communities deciding they’re sick of eating shit. As for “will the videos stay there forever?” They are not staying on YouTube forever either. Videos get demonetised, geo-blocked, copyright-nuked, hidden by algorithmic sludge, or deleted all the time. Centralisation does not guarantee permanence. It guarantees dependence. I’m not for that. That is why people mirror, self-host, archive, syndicate, and build bridges between platforms. People imagine only one possible future: “Everyone stays on YouTube because YouTube is big.” I am pointing at the much more obvious one: “YouTube keeps enshittifying itself until more and more people route around it.” It does not have to die overnight. It just has to become less necessary. Soon enough, YT will block all the clever back doors we use with uBlock, Smartube, Revanced, Newpipe etc. Then what? Eat shit? Nah. This thread has inspired me to roll up my sleeves and see what I can think thru. I already have a back of napkin idea for a basic MVP that joins all those services I mentioned into 1 front end. I will make it for myself and when its solid enough, throw it up on Codeberg for others to fork and improve.

I disagree. The fight isn’t lost - it hasn’t even started yet. People are apathetic and/or ignorant to alternatives. Some of those people can be appealed to - or on sufficient enshittification, motivated into action. Spite is a wonderful reagent. Additionally, the apathy of the masses has no impact on individual response. Things already exist that marry disparate platforms (eg: Grayjay, Kodi plug ins etc). We need not wait. And while I remain sanguine that YT will piss off enough people eventually, I’d sooner code my own app, that joins all my streams - and release it into the wild - than let others dictate what I can and cannot do.

All we can do is point the way. There are alternatives - we’re using one right now. I’m for giving people choices. People should be empowered with knowledge. Whether they choose the act on that knowledge is up to them. odysee.com peertube.tv nebula.tv curiositystream.com www.hoopladigital.com.au

Hey YouTube? The endpoint of enshittification is this: I wipe my ass and flush you. Keep going, YouTube. You’re not so important that we can’t just leave. Nebula exists. Curiosity Stream exists. PeerTube exists. Odysee exits. The people I value on YT already have footholds on all four. More will arrive soon enough. So keep at it. Keep injecting unskippable ads, flooding the feed with AI slop, letting bots post porn, demonetising and hiding quality content, using DMCA like a digital SLAPP against content creators, and using the algorithm to warp reality. Your value proposition is ubiquity. That’s it. That’s all you have. Without popular buy-in, you’re dead. We proles? We have something better than loyalty. We have spite. So keep pissing people off - because watching you die on a very stupid hill of your own design will be entertaining AF. For everyone else, see you on !selfhosted@lemmy.world and !privacy@lemmy.world. Come and learn how you can replace all of these pieces of shit. And in the meantime - yt-dlp should still work to download what you actually want to keep, and SmartTube is black magic incarnate.

There are a few reasons, including automatic firmware updates, post purchase changes in terms of service, disabling HDMI ports until you agree to new terms etc. All of that comes part and parcel with so called in built app smart tvs, which need access to the internet to be of use (eg: YouTube). Once that’s enabled…they work in the background to update self (yes, even when disabled, at least by basic means). Without it, the apps are limited utility - catch 22. See - Roku TVs, some TCLs, Sharps, FireTve, Blauerpunkts etc. OTOH There are devices (like older google chrome cast with TV - the ones that look like a oversized nurses watch) that sit behind your TV and can be solely powered by the TV. No visible cables, no visible anything, install Android apps to your heart"s content, disable google play services and telemetry, use Fdroid, install game emulator, video conferencing software (they have USB pass thru) etc. They don’t make those particular Chromecasts any more (newer model is basically same form factor as NVIDIA shield), but there were and probably still are similar “plug into TV and forget it” sticks, like CM4 in HDMI enclosure. TL;DR: I’m for having stuff perinstalled too…but not if manufacturer can change how it works after point of sale. If that’s the play, I’d rather roll my own. YMMV.

Oh for sure I could...but should I have to? The whole thing is bass-ackwards. I reckon I'll just leave it and see what happens. If it shits itself - awesome. Business case then and there for ditching big Evil. We don't need this shit, no one asked us our opinion on using it, it just .... "became a requirement to have a Google account" one day.

Really? That's... astonishing. You know what? I hope they do that. So long as they give fair warning, so I don't rock up to work one day and no longer have access to work files / OAuth / 2FA without warning. They send an email, I can escalate. Not my problem then.

Can't says I've noticed, because apart from the stupid account, I don't use google.

I’m building one. It treats you how you treat it. bobbyllm.github.io/…/claude-in-a-can-1/

"...specifically crafted to demonstrate tasks that humans complete easily" Motherfucker, I can't work out Minesweeper. I got zero fucking chance with your mystery box bloop game.

Thank you! Done. Also, go Codeberg.

Heh. Mass.gravel as the github repo always makes me do a double take.

I don’t understand the M$ endgame with Win 11. Like, it would be very easy to paint this as intentional… but as Halon’s sez “never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. Putting aside low hanging fruit (end stage capitalism, ai bad etc)…y u do this, Microsoft? You have good people there, right? Top. Men. Right? I’d love to read something on this topic from a M$ insider / ex-pat. I’m trying to understanding why M$ is doing the equivalent of Sideshow Bob stepping on garden rakes. What’s up over there?

Narrator: No, they did not win.

taps temple Ads won’t load if browser literally can’t load em.

Watch out for the chicken-duck woman thing

…Science? ScInCe? A WITCH! A WITCH! BURN THE WITCH!

…because every now and again, for the briefest of moments, one them shows themselves not to be run by entirely evil, lecherous humps? Blink and you (or the shareholders) might miss it.

I think Beyond Sunset came out first but dunno. Yes, those TCs are definite standouts. Think of them (quite literally) as “What if Fallout but Doom?” and “What if CP2077 but Doom?”. If you like either of those, you should like the TCs. There’s a good Wolfenstein one (I know, I know…very meta) called Blades Of Agony that is astonishingly great also. Shame about the GZDoom thing. People are ridiculously over-sensitive to AI anything at the moment. C’est la vie

Can the 486 run GZDOOM? Because if it can, you just became one of the lucky 10,000 www.moddb.com/mods/ashes-2063 www.moddb.com/games/beyond-sunset

Are… are you the fabled walrus? Goo goo g’joob?

Oh. That’s dumb. Or at least, wrongly incentivized.

Not sure how we’re quantifying intelligence here. Benchmarks? Qwen3-4B 2507 Instruct (4B) outperforms GPT-4.1 nano (7B) on all stated benchmarks. It outperforms GPT-4.1 mini (~27B according to scuttlebutt) on mathematical and logical reasoning benchmarks, but loses (barely) on instruction-following and knowledge benchmarks. It outperforms GPT-4o on a few specific domains (math, creative writing), but loses overall (because of course it would). So, in that instance, a 4B > 7B (globally), 27B (significantly) and 500B(?) situationally. It sort of wild to think that 2024 SOTA is ~ ‘strong’ 4-12B these days. I think (believe) that we’re sort of getting to the point where the next step forward is going to be “densification” and/or architecture shift (maybe M$ can finally pull their finger out and release the promised 1.58 bit next step architectures). ICBW / IANAE

Wouldn’t the more logical first approximation be to bury them underground, and then progress towards (perhaps) placing them in or near the ocean (obviously, within sealed containers, yadda yadda, salt corrosion, yadda yadda, inhospitable environ yadda yadda makes Poseidon angry). I like the “yeet them into the sea” idea conceptually because (1) yeet them into the sea (2) in theory, you could power them via tidal/wave/OTEC (3) water cooling. Seems…too obvious. There’s probably a good reason (or bad ones - $$$) why this hasn’t been tried yet. But I bet those reasons are eminently more solvable that “send em into space”

Codex 5.3. cue “Hello Darkness My Old Friend”

Surprised and disappointed, both by them and the system (capitalism) that stops us from having nice things. If we ever crack AGI, it’s probably going to be because the market optimised for the better shilling of dick pills, crypto scams and spyware. That’s…fucking bleak, in the Hide Pain Harold way.

The water things still baffles me out. Like…just…cycle it. It’s a heat exchange system. What do they do with the water? Pump thru once and then dump it?

Once you go Notepad++ you never come back