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As opposed to what it is now, right?

If only you had an ounce of self-awareness...

Democrats say vote, you don't, they don't get power, they can't do shit, you blame them for asking you to vote, you don't do it again, it's everyone else's fault but yours. "But I voted once in 2012, and it clearly didn't help, therefore the whole concept of democracy should be abandoned"

I like how your own numbers immediately started to be unreliable the second I used them. Again, we're walking in circles because you'all refuse to even acknowledge the argument. Shitty jobs are shitty because of financial intensives to keep it so. They don't need to be. We have shortage of sanitation workers because they have to care about "pay and benefits", and because companies try to pay them less and make them work more so they spend less money on workforce. They hesitate to improve their working environment because there is no "economic incentive" to do so. They don't do automation because labour is cheaper. All of that are problems caused by revolving all what we do around making profit for shareholders. We have so much labour that we just waste on people doing bullshit with the ultimate goal of the imaginary line going up. Obviously if we keep that, we don't get people to do other work, all the people are overworked to death and also for some reason starving and struggling. They have shortage of medical personnel despite them being rewarded with a bunch of money, and then you turn around and say that if we don't do financial stick and carrot, we will have shortage of workers. Do you not see the obvious problem with this logic?

TV is quite unique because they're cheap so you watch ads and they watch you and sell your data. You don't repair them not because you can't but because it's cheaper to buy a new one because with TV you are the product. With all the rest you absolutely can repair it, it's just way harder because the technology is more complicated, smaller, integrated better. I repaired my washing machine myself 5 years ago with no prior knowledge buying a spare part on aliexpress, and it was Samsung, notorious for subpar repairability. On the other hand, I failed to repair my smartwatch even though I had spare parts, again was incredibly easy to find, but it's was so complicated and small so without expensive equipment I couldn't do it, but that's absolutely not their fault. Meanwhile, 50 or so years old TV my dad refused to throw out for nostalgic reasons had to be repaired every year like clockwork, it took him a full day, and by the end of it's life spare vacuum tubes were more expensive than a new tv. Anyway, planned obsolescence was always a thing, the legends are saying the first commercial lightbulb was sold with this concept in mind. But it's not as ubiquitous as we fear it is

It’s not that gotcha that you think it is. I worked a lot of hard jobs, for 10 years I did very hard and complicated work in very unpleasant environments for very very little money only because I loved what we did and the results of our labour, and I was good at it. I would be doing that still if I didn’t need money to feed my family. In my years I’ve met a lot of people who were enjoying, properly enjoying jobs that other people will call hell. My job at the time, and to a big extend my job now, is something other people will never want to do for any amount of money.

Doctors make good money and we don’t have enough of them

And your conclusion isn’t that the system of people working for money and only for money is a broken system that demonstrably doesn’t work, but that we need to conserve it as long as we can because it was always done like that?
Yes, getting rid of money will absolutely help. Many people want to be doctors but can’t afford the time or resources to either become one, or to actually put their existing education to use.
And as an example I’ve personally witnessed, being a doctor in Russia in the 90s was about the worst job you can get, you don’t get any money, and I mean none, they were going multiple consecutive months without any salary. The shortage was about on par with the doctor’s shortage in US right now. Trapping people in jobs they don’t want to do is not something that helps humanity in any way.

Do kids need to go to school? Five days a week?

I struggle to understand how this is relevant to the conversation.

When you do your scaling you need to scale everything. The adult population of the US is estimated as 266 million people as of now. Half a million is roughly 1 adult in 530 people. Let's quadruple it up so they have nice relaxed works schedule. Let's say now you need 4 people per 530. If you think you can't find 10 out of 1000 people who would do some sanitation work, with no stress and without having to think where their next meal comes from, you just never met people. And this is the most important part that you seem to ignore - when people's basic means are met, they want to fulfill higher levels of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. For some that means doing arts or doing some engineering or running a company. For some, and there are s many of those some, that means "it's not much but it's honest work". Doing small visible changes that make the world the better place one picked up piece of rubbish at a time, is exactly, precisely what significant portion of humanity will be doing. This also works in another direction: billions of people who would be doing something grand and moving humanity further, are stuck in mundane repetitive broken jobs they hate, because they're stuck in this cycle of needing to grind to survive, without having a moment to breath, which slowly kills every bit of light they once had a potential to have.

That's absolutely not what bystander effect is, not even close. It has also nothing to do with the issue at hand. Bystander effect caused not by not willing to put an effort, it's incredibly complicated, layered, and not exactly explained, but probably the only thing we know about it for sure is that it's not because people are lazy

"Who's gonna do mindbraking soulcrushing jobs for days without a break?" Nobody, that's not a job that has to be done this way. "But if we stop orphan crushing machine, what will crush all the orphans?" When you're imagining the worst parts of the worst jobs, remember that the reason those jobs have worst parts is because the main incentive of every job is to have the profit of a job as high as possible, and to exploit the workers. Yeah, some jobs are hard, some are complicated, some are dirty, some are all three. But all that is something people can and regularly enjoy. People don't enjoy when it's degrading, when it's soulcrushing for no reason, when there is obvious injustice. And it has nothing to do with jobs

because most people you affect in a city are not personally known to you, and there will be no opportunity for the social mechanisms we evolved to pressure us into doing the right thing

That’s a demonstrable bullshit. Believing that the only motivation people can have is the fear of repercussions is the same level of that christian psychotic “if it wasn’t for the fear of god everyone would be raping and killing all the time” that says more about you than about supposed issue you’re afraid of.

Because, I don't know if you're noticed, having a paying job is exhausting. The world setup in such a way that for a normal person, getting money means someone will suck every bit of life of you. That's, pardon the not nice metaphor, the difference between night of passionate sex and selling your ass so your pimp doesn't beat you up. Both activities can be reduced to physical aspects, but not a lot of people will ask why one is desirable and the other is less so.

The reasons those jobs are such shit is also money. A lot of people enjoy cleaning, nobody enjoys being overworked. Normal functioning societies don't leave heaps of stinking trash around, they neatly pack it and the work of a janitor of garbage collector becomes actually enjoyable if you're a proper type of personality. Hell, my uncle right now works as a part time street sweeper basically for free. He has his basic needs met by other means, and his "job" pays him enough to get a cup of coffee before the shift and a sandwich after. He just enjoys making the world cleaner, chatting with locals, taking care of stray cats, and having a routine. All of that is possible in a world that doesn't revolves around squeesing every bit of labour from people so some pedos can buy themselves another island and fill it with sex slaves

If you think the concept of saving money on shoddy parts was invented this decade you just never paid attention. “Metal” isn’t some kind of magic substance that just works forever, cheap cast bullshit iron can shatter quicker than you can say “structural integrity”. The reason everyone is glazing up this old appliances is because of survivorship bias, everyone sees one on the million devices and doesn’t see millions of old bullshits that disintegrated into nothingness over years.

And I am once again saying that this argument doesn’t do that. You just conditioned to jump to this misinterpretation as a defense, and people who conditioned you to do so did that for not amazing purposes.

You'd hope, but no. Tech space is littered with "I asked chat-whatever-the-fuck how to delete cookies and it told me that I'm smart" people

If you read that from this meme, you might need to go back to school to learn some literacy a bit more.

There is a bunch of stuff that can become an alternative, if the users will come.

The Titan 2 Elite seems to be a less gimmicky version of the Titan 2

They just had to announce it after I ordered the one with all the “bizarre” gimmicks.

They have a very prolific YouTube channel, so yeah, editing.

Well, the main reason for that big plain-into-building debacle was US going to the middle east to do some bombing, and the main reason for that is economical (well, and racist, but that’s a given). The only religious part there was people doing suicide bombing instead of shooting rockets.

CEOs have this massive psychosis, they really believe everyone wants this bullshit. I have a theory that it’s because they were always surrounded by yesmen, and simultaneously they hate people, so for them the LLM is the best thing ever, all the constant agreeing and affirmation with no pesky humanity, and they can’t believe there is anyone who don’t want that.

Clarification Too late, my people are already on the way

On my setup two dashes become an m-dash. On my phone it’s a long press. It’s actually very easy, If you don’t know something doesn’t mean most people don’t

Human skin is even more renewable, we have billions of those motherfuckers munching about

Fuck, yeah, I forgot about deep philosophical lore of nyan cat, the profound lore of it, the deep meaning.

They never actually say what “product” do they make, it’s always “shipped product” like they’re fucking amazon warehouse. I suspect because it’s some trivial webpage that takes an afternoon for a student to ship up, that they spent three days arguing with an autocomplete to shit out.

It never seconds. The first three versions will don’t do what you want (or not work at all), so you will end up arguing with this shit for significant amount of time without realising it

I’m not going to argue Obviously, that would require reading and engaging with my response, and you clearly decided to not do both even before I wrote it

The same reason you ask it to do anything.

It is far better than a modern search engine, although that is in part because of all of the SEO slop that Google has ingested. The fact that you need to think critically is not something new and it’s never going to go away either. Very much disagree with that. Google got significantly worse, but LLM results are worse still. You do need to think critically about it, but with LLM blurb there is no ways to check for validity other than to do another search without LLM, to find sources, and in this case why even bother with the generator in the first place, or accept that some of your new info can be incorrect, and you don’t know which part. With conventional search you have all the context of your result, you have the reputation of the website itself, you have the info about who wrote the article or whatever, you have the tone of article, you have comments, you have all the subtle clues that we learnt to pick up on both from our lifetime experience on the internet, and civilisational span experience with human interaction. With the generator you have zero of that, you have something that is stated as fact, and everything has the same weight and the same validity, and even when it sites sources, those can be just outright lies.

A year ago I was looking for a job, and by the end I had three similar job offers, and to decide I asked all of them do they use LLMs. Two said “yes very much so it’s the future ai is smarter than god”, and the third said “only if you really want, but nowhere where it matters”. I chose the third one. Two others are now bankrupt.

It’s not that it’s impossible, but it requires effort, skill, and time. Instead of hiring a bunch of programmers who would make it run on the device locally, you can just throw the same amount of money at Amazon and it will run whatever unoptimised version of the renderer you stole on some random Chinese forum. As a bonus, you got to enrich a multibillionaire and make a world slightly worse place, which is a second and third priority of every CEO after getting money.

Don’t worry, the quality of the modern hardware is so shitty, it will not outlive the company for long

If you’re relatively rich that is.