2023-06-22 17:56 UTC
Replies (22)
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@drdrowland@fediscience.org 2023-06-22 17:58
a billion dollar foundation would immediately have the capacity to cover sections of the mediterranean for sure
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@el_rubino@hachyderm.io 2023-06-22 19:46
@ElleGray@mstdn.social We *could*, but we're not gonna. https://morningstaronline.co.uk/node/71822
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@niedlichenacktschnecke@kolektiva.social 2023-06-22 20:01
@ElleGray@mstdn.social @cstross@wandering.shop instead we have frontex and a chaotic mishmash of coast guards and other actors to prevent such rescues
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@StrangeNoises@mastodon.social 2023-06-22 20:02
@ElleGray@mstdn.social @stephenwhq@mastodon.social sane and humane immigration policies would obviate the need; people could just take normal modes of transport. People only take the dangerous routes because the safe routes are blocked to appease racists.
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@InternetEh@dads.cool 2023-06-22 20:23
@ElleGray@mstdn.social there's a ship captain in Europe who is facing 20 years in prison for trying to rescue migrants
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@justinWF@hachyderm.io 2023-06-22 20:30
@ElleGray@mstdn.social Great take and I agree. Sad that this isn't the case. Sad state of affairs.
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@izaro@twit.social 2023-06-22 21:17
@ElleGray@mstdn.social @glennf@twit.social There are no excuses for migrants to be let die at sea or anywhere.
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@KikoKate@chaosfem.tw 2023-06-22 22:02
@ElleGray@mstdn.social 🤔
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@FlorriePuddlefoot@sfba.social 2023-06-22 22:29
@ElleGray@mstdn.social this type of situation is only going to get worse if the world continues to ignore climate disruption.
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@andrewfeeney@phpc.social 2023-06-22 22:37
@ElleGray@mstdn.social Even better, let’s operate a ferry service. Safer, cheaper, more humane.
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@Helengraham@ieji.de 2023-06-22 22:49
@ElleGray@mstdn.social very true and we could get international co ordination to do so.But to be fair I think part of this was experimental ,trying out technology and gadgets tyhat hadnt had a chance to be used except in test situations , to see what was possible if a sub was lost so deep , as I doubt many people involved in the search thought there was any real chance of them being rescued.Plus this played out over days when they might have still been alive.I think people were hoping for a miracle
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@mivey@meta.masto.host 2023-06-22 23:40
@ElleGray@mstdn.social Look up "mare Nostrum". The EU fixed this problem, after having made the decision that no one should ever have to die in boat accident in the Mediterranean. Then it became politically a liability to save brown and black people, so the whole thing was shut down, and we have EU countries where coast guards are actively pushing migrant boats away or passively watch them drown.
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@s@social.sd.ai 2023-06-22 23:59
@ElleGray@mstdn.social despite the (inheritance) tax benefits of letting billionaires die being much more lucrative.
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@SloanStudio@mastodon.social 2023-06-23 01:32
@ElleGray@mstdn.social We can solve world hunger, homelessness, improve life expectancy, and save millions of lives… we have more cultural evolution to do to match our technological prowess.
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@xs4me2@mastodon.social 2023-06-23 06:16
@ElleGray@mstdn.social Indeed…
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@jmcs@social.jsantos.eu 2023-06-23 10:19
@ElleGray@mstdn.social if we (as in Western society) cared, desperate people wouldn't even need to resort to human traffickers to cross the Mediterranean.
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@leandrofelgueiras@mastodon.social 2023-06-23 11:14
@ElleGray@mstdn.social i just disagree of the "we choose" since this is being chosen for us
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@uzayran@cyberplace.social 2023-06-23 12:40
@ElleGray@mstdn.social instead we make sure to criminalise the people putting their own lives and money on the line to save them
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@Metzgirl@dice.camp 2023-06-23 14:45
@ElleGray@mstdn.social International Capitalism prevents this.
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@lunch@tilde.zone 2023-06-23 14:55
@ElleGray@mstdn.social p o l i c y f a i l u r e
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@spongefile@xoxo.zone 2023-06-23 16:34
@ElleGray@mstdn.social Both on the US border and on the Mediterranean the pretty explicit plan seems to be ”let refugees be separated from their families, suffer and die so it be a deterrent to others considering the attempt” 😐
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@fluids_guru@activism.openworlds.info 2023-06-23 23:43
@ElleGray@mstdn.social cannot recommend this book highly enough