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Post #891293

2023-08-19 23:41 UTC

I love how this message from the #pyconau organisers is being emphasized and re-emphasized daily. Slide reads: We don't do that here We don't trash talk other communities. We don't assume anyone is not a programmer. We don't make jokes at the expense of others.

Replies (11)

  • @spencer@motley.club 2023-08-20 20:16

    @glasnt I love the use of the magic normative phrase!

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  • @stfn@fosstodon.org 2023-08-20 05:11

    @glasnt I’m curious to know where did the second point come from and what do there exactly mean by it

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  • @glasnt This is really powerful. It's not enough to just assume that everybody that arrives in a space has the same values and way of being. When you notice your culture is in a good place, you also have to protect it.

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  • @geekruthie@hachyderm.io 2023-08-20 15:18

    @glasnt @Perl conferences need to do this. For ~99%, this is no problem. But there's That Guy. Anyone who was in Toronto last month likely *knows*. Aeons ago at a Perl conference (YAPC, it was called then), I sat down with some devs who were bagging on PHP. Shortly, one of them said, "I wonder if PHP devs bag on us like we do on them?" My response: "Yes, we do." TRASH TALKING OTHER LANGUAGES IS MEAN, DIVISIVE, COMPLETELY UNPRODUCTIVE, AND MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FOOL.

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  • @glasnt@cloudisland.nz Kind sad they have to write this tho

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  • @waltman@hachyderm.io 2023-08-20 20:02

    @glasnt A few people could have used this message at this year's #Perl conference in Toronto.

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  • @joelle@social.joelle.us 2023-08-20 20:05

    @glasnt Bravo, #pyconau ! As someone who believes tech is for everyone, seeing organizations address some of the toxicity and barriers in the tech community always makes me think higher of the organization/conference/language.

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  • @nrdufour@toot.ptinem.io 2023-08-20 20:39

    @glasnt The 3rd sentence is rather strange: I'm not a native English speaker, but it seems to say "we assume anyone is a programmer" -- or double negative is again messing with my head?

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  • @spatula@tech.lgbt 2023-08-20 22:15

    @glasnt Setting expectations, being clear and concise. I love it.

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  • @drew@takahe.social 2023-08-20 22:37

    @glasnt can we steal this for DCUS?

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  • @irina@wandering.shop 2023-08-22 04:00

    @glasnt I wish they also wouldn't assume anyone *is* a programmer. (Not being a programmer and hanging out with programmers a lot, I've been on the receiving end of that assumption too often)

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