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Post #843889

2025-12-09 13:41 UTC

Remember when a “legitimate argument” peddled against #EVs was the power grid would fail? Too much strain? Oh WOE be to the power lines! Grandma will DIE in her home in August because YOU plugged in! Yet suddenly we are full steam ahead building #datacenters the size of Manhattan to make banana pics. #AI #slop. And the electric demand will be colossal and constant. Society and the world needs to stop being fooled and corralled by interests that don’t care about you. #politics #environment

Replies (9)

  • @enovmusic@mastodon.tails.ch 2025-12-09 14:00

    @shanie ..and not all power grids are running at full capacity. Here, only 33%. The reason? Because it's like this 🤷

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  • @Virginicus@universeodon.com 2025-12-09 17:32

    @shanie On the positive side, Wired reports that some cryptocurrency mining operations are giving up and converting to data centers now.

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  • @shanie It’s a bit of an apples to oranges comparison though, isn’t it. The grid in the first case has to accommodate cars, which could be anywhere: new areas, old areas, apartment parking lots or suburban garages. Data centres can be more optimally located. Also there’s an investment case for building data centre power generation ”behind the meter”. You probably wouldn’t want the equivalent, where an automaker runs energy to your home charger from their own power plant.

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  • @the5thColumnist@mstdn.ca 2026-04-01 02:59

    @shanie EV charging stations could probably run on small arrays of solar panels and not even need to be connected to the grid.

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  • @ee@phpc.social 2026-04-01 07:32

    @shanie Without actually questioning the whole dubious EV-makes-the-grid-cry proposition, datacenters can be paired with a power station. They don't necessarily affect the grid like widely distributed tech like light bulbs or refrigerators. Not an endorsement or whitepaper, just a thought.

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  • @jefframnani@mastodon.social 2026-04-01 18:16

    @shanie I have been thinking about this while reading about DCs installing engine turbines fed by dirty fuel just to crank out slop. And those same boosters would be clutching their pearls about the grid because they wanted to keep the status quo wrt cars. That’s a long way of saying I agree. 🙂

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  • @eudoxos@witter.cz 2026-04-01 19:19

    @shanie Won't be built, the bubble pops earlier than that.

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  • @tasket@infosec.exchange 2026-04-01 19:25

    @shanie The difference being that with the EV agenda, overall consumption and pollution are being reduced. With the AI data center agenda, consumption and pollution are increased.

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  • @mls14@social.vivaldi.net 2026-04-02 02:17

    @shanie Just more proof that it was all a lie perpetuated by big oil.

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