Post #652272
2023-08-02 14:23 UTC
Replies (28)
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@ramsey@phpc.social 2023-08-02 14:40
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Same for Safari/WebKit browsers.
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@dustinrue@mastodon.chateaude.luxe 2023-08-02 14:51
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social @chris@mastodon.chriswiegman.com “use our app for the best experience!”
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@GrumpyGirdle@mastodonapp.uk 2023-08-02 15:22
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social @grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu only a few months ago a site said it only worked with IE & "Netscape". Seriously!?
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@iju@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 15:32
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Alas, one of the sites that are broken is google.
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@jankka@mementomori.social 2023-08-02 15:34
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social reminds me to fix my app/site. You're right.
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@Anselm@troet.cafe 2023-08-02 15:48
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Actually, I'd maintain a good baseline is actually #netsurf: https://www.netsurf-browser.org Contrary to the "big" engines, this still has code a single person can grok, which for me is a good definition for "free as in freedom". We shouldn't lock such engines out for a bit of glitz and animations I'd like to turn off anyway...
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@giggls@karlsruhe-social.de 2023-08-02 15:54
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social #SAP I feel you 😞
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@pyperkub@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 16:08
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Bonus points - the more different browsers you use, the less effective stalker behavior from trackers are. An instance in which "not" sharing your cookies is a 'good' thing! (but kids, please share real cookies with real people ;) )
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@5klp471@4bear.com 2023-08-02 16:58
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Chrome needs an "Open in Firefox" extension.
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@basisbit@chaos.social 2023-08-02 17:27
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social I strongly disagree at least when its related to WebRTC. Firefox is super buggy when it comes to WebRTC.
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@hias1234@social.anoxinon.de 2023-08-02 17:36
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Teams on Firefox is broken. I guess, MS did that intentionally Again, same old f*+&king company
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@juandesant@astrodon.social 2023-08-02 17:36
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social agreed! And sometimes all that is required is changing the User-Agent to fake Firefox is Chrome…
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@kevinteljeur@mastodon.online 2023-08-02 17:51
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social @cyclinggeezr@mindly.social There are too many sites - including those by governments - that only work in Chrome.
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@ronaldb66@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 18:03
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social I switched to Firefox as the main browser on my work laptop earlier this week and (besides the expected re-logins) results were... interesting. It's going to take a bit of fettling and configuring to iron out some wrinkles.
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@averagedood@owo.cafe 2023-08-02 18:22
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social The only thing I've ever had a problem with in Firefox is the Gamepad API when using some web based games, or something like Game Pass Ultimate or Nvidia GeForce Now, and even that was only once, and never again
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@gunstick@mastodon.opencloud.lu 2023-08-02 19:46
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social recently I had to switch to Edge (chrome) to be able to use a telepresency robot. The video connection dropped consistently after 10 seconds.
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@komikymi@mastodon.online 2023-08-02 20:21
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social my websites look the best on firefox just sayinnnn
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@thomkennon@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 20:21
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social or: Firefox is soft tech fascism, blocking shit by authoritarian default that i want to open. I wish Brave was better or some light non surveillance capitalist alternative. Any recos?
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@cwnidog@universeodon.com 2023-08-02 20:29
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social : That was back in the days of MS "embracing and extending" standards, AKA being non-compliant. But their developer tools depended on those non-compliances, so stuff developed using them wouldn't work on anybody else's browser. Firefox has always been standard-compliant.
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@TheTurboDiesel@woof.group 2023-08-02 20:29
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Downloading eDiscovery results from Office (er, sorry, Microsoft365) STILL suggests using IE. TBF, they've updated the verbiage to say "Edge or IE," but damn. Let IE die!
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@GrahamKirk@mastodon.online 2023-08-02 20:30
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social Firefox coupled with Duck Duck go has been my only provider for many years. If a site doesn't work with those, I have nothing to do with the site. #firefox #DuckDuckGo
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@ardouglass@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 20:54
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social I love Firefox and used it as my daily driver until last year. Their refusal/inability to support some of the lower-level web APIs like real file system access or hardware stuff like webUSB makes me question this argument. Is my app broken because I want to use the web browser as a cross-OS compatibility layer instead of writing native code? Or is Firefox broken for not supporting features that people can expect on any chromium browser?
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@hexxy_the_grouch@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 20:56
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social I agree Firefox is the better browser. It's my go to for a most cases. I use a modest collection of privacy plugins and it works for me. Chrome still has to live on my computer for specific tasks though. The two primary cases are intranet things and HID access so I can configure my keyboard. The first because the internal powers don't think about these things. The second is a decision by an open source group who I suppose wanted to drop the standalone tool? (caniusevia FYI)
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@wademcgillis@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 21:03
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social firefox doesn't support "font-variant-emoji" edit: my computer doesn't have chrome on it. firefox is the browser that i use all of the time.
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@AnecdotallyExtant@mastodon.social 2023-08-02 21:07
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social
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@KaitlynEthylia@ak.ouroboros.gay 2023-08-02 21:08
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social CC @darkwiiplayer@tech.lgbt :3
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@Dasy2k1@mastodonapp.uk 2023-08-02 21:32
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social did have a banner on an old site that said that the site was only designed to work with W3C compliant browsers and that if the graphics were gkitching try a better browser.... But that was back in the days of HTML 4.01 transitional
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@seedy@tweesecake.social 2023-08-02 21:37
@stevegrunwell@phpc.social @wx1g@4bear.com And for God's sake, install UBlock Origin!