Post #3464354
2026-06-25 22:30 UTC
Replies (9)
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@xyla@shitpost.trade 2026-06-25 22:31
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe uh oh looks like i stepped on the ego
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@martin_ueding@bonn.social 2026-06-26 04:12
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade Wuhan to Beijing, 1050 km, 4:20 h, two stops. Average is 240 km/h. It was on time, clean, everyone had a seat reservation and I got hot food in the restaurant car. Do we have something like this in Germany?
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@ClickyMcTicker@hachyderm.io 2026-06-26 04:40
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade I calculated an average of 130km/h using a rough travel distance/time of 585km and 4.5h. The former is using car directions and the latter is what maps report the train takes. That’s a far cry from 300km/h.
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@Quantensalat@scicomm.xyz 2026-06-26 05:02
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade Maybe what they mean is that as opposed to France with their centralized LGVs running through from the periphery to Paris, we have a bit of a patchwork of very high speed lines and slower lines shared by other services and cargo, requiring more slowing down and waiting on any given trip, but still, I think it'd be pretty decent network with better coverage if they maintained everything properly
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@morton@kolektiva.social 2026-06-26 05:47
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade You’ve got the wrong person. You should be writing to @asha@fedia.social.
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@ptrc@social.treehouse.systems 2026-06-26 07:22
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade at least the TGV does not shit itself on a daily basis huh
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@fxx_xxf@muenchen.social 2026-06-26 17:34
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade only some of them are able to reach 300. And the 4:05 can also be done with the slow ones reachinh only 266.
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@SonstHarmlos@franken.social 2026-06-27 10:32
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade The problem is not maximum speed, but the „patchwork“ nature of the network - which means that every longer train ride is a mixture of high-speed lines and legacy infrastructure, which is overloaded and quite often shared with regional and freight trains, causing frequent delays.
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@jpetazzo@hachyderm.io 2026-06-27 12:11
@dr_jo_mue@troet.cafe @xyla@shitpost.trade lol, okay, I'll bite I travel frequently between Berlin and Paris by train. It takes almost 6 hours to do Berlin-Strasbourg (about 750km), and less than 2 hours to do Strasbourg-Paris (about 500km). The effective speed on that route is therefore 125 km/h on the German section, and 250 km/h on the French section. (This is for the express train that only stops in Frankfurt, Mannheim, Karlsruhe. If you take other trains the German section is even slower.) That's why some people consider German trains to be slow as fuck. I hope from the bottom of my heart that it'll get better once the big infrastructure works that are currently underway are complete, and that it can bring the Berlin-Paris trip to 6 hours or less - ideally with more than a single departure per day at 7am, and more like the comparable Lille-Marseille route (1000km in less than 5 hours, with 5+ departures per day). Oh also don't get me started on comfort in ICE trains - I'd pick 2nd class TGV over 1st class ICE any day, mostly because of the size and position of the tablets.