Post #2991908

2024-05-20 11:50 UTC

Didn't we learn this from open source already? This shit is how you end up with spaces at best lacking inclusion and more likely hostile to a diverse representation of voices Wanting to get paid for work isn't an optional extra for the overwhelming majority of people in the world ffs

Replies (7)

@sue@glasgow.social 2024-05-20 12:09

Side gripe: a lot of these efforts are based on nostalgia for a past or perceived lost web that's meaningless to almost everyone on the web today, I don't want something we had or believe we had, I want something better that's shaped by the folk who'll be most affected by its future

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@FrankHghTwr@meow.social 2024-05-20 15:23

@sue@glasgow.social We didn't learn it with Geocities, I doubt we learned it with open source.

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@drizzy@cyberplace.social 2024-05-20 15:53

@sue@glasgow.social but people have poured enormous amounts of time into platforms such as reddit for free already. I think the idea of small web etc is that people pour that same energy into places they control. Create their own friendly neighborhoods.

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@mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org 2024-05-20 17:33

@sue@glasgow.social work ≠ hobby

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@watters@hachyderm.io 2024-05-20 18:36

@sue@glasgow.social One of the ironies is that folks expressing such sentiments frequently expect compensation, even if it is not direct financial compensation.

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@taatm@mathstodon.xyz 2024-05-20 21:01

@sue@glasgow.social @mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io I couldn’t agree more. It takes great privilege to work for free. Those who can spend their spare time won’t want it to be joyless. Toxic behaviour becomes an evolutionary pressure and we end up with cis white men gate keeping. Everything takes energy so all projects need to be made sustainable, and very few can survive on donations.

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@ArneBab@rollenspiel.social 2024-05-24 14:23

@sue@glasgow.social Didn’t Free Software explicitly include „yes, this allows making money from it!“ from the start? (but this is a problem I see in a lot of idealistic projects. When I suggested donating to a Linux distro I was using so the existing devs could go full-time, the thread about that got so deeply derailed that it never got anywere. Including „but that would skew incentives!“ when there were devs working for corporations pushing their requirements but no one paid by the community) 1/2

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