Post #2564610

2024-12-02 03:13 UTC

@rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green I’m going to hype the idea of a trust score to replace algorithms You can set a “vouch value” for as many or as few people as you like — 0 to 100, or -100 to 100 so we can block others Then inherit a proportion of that trust number via followers. It’s the “friends of friends” idea that worked well once before. Plus “friends of enemies” works even more — as any former BBS sysop can tell you, you get more activity overall when you reject more bad activity But we need something to replace the algorithm. Not everybody can do full timeline, or inbox zero. (You control consumption by sliding a filter from 100)

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@delProfundo@aus.social 2024-12-02 03:27

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green that trust tree gets spicey pretty quick. We had a friends of friends model in a startup I founded 15 years ago. At 4 steps away ur basically mapping the entire user base.

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@jaystephens@mastodon.social 2024-12-02 03:30

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green So, for FoFs (assuming -100 to +100) the effective score would be your friend's rating of that FoF, multiplied by the % you gave the linking friend?

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@miblo@mas.to 2024-12-02 03:50

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green Mmm, well I tend to be pretty hype-resistant but I'm into this idea! I see it in the same ballpark as a bunch of ways of scoring references / citations I have floating around for a pipe dream comms system with sophisticated referencing at its core.

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@jannem@fosstodon.org 2024-12-02 05:35

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green People show very different faces to different people. I'd worry that tech bros would have impeccable scores from a large number of peers, and the much fewer targets for their harassment would have no chance of breaking through. It would be even worse if that all-over score decided their status on your feed, not just your own score, but I don't think that's what you're suggesting. Look at algorithms for star rating systems for ideas on handling split scores.

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@Zugschlus@zug.network 2024-12-02 07:24

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green Computing a trust score IS an algorithm. Sorting according to the trust score IS an algorithm. Algorithms are fine. The Internet and all of Informatics is based on them. In social media, Algorithms should be open, documented, and optional.

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@billseitz@toolsforthought.social 2024-12-05 02:30

@whophd@ioc.exchange @rauschma@fosstodon.org @geertaarts@mastodon.green http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/WebOfTrust http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/ReputationGraph

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