Post #2313471
2026-03-10 14:44 UTC
Separate but related, when did VMware and Virtual Box get so terrible on Linux? I used to use them all the time, but with secure boot, installing either of them is not so straightforward. I gave up on VMWare after a few hours of trying to figure out the which combination of software version, user-provided patches, and kernel version to install.
I realized later that I had forgotten to sign keys for secure boot. You'd think the installer would at least give you a warning.
Virtual Box on the other hand, told me I had to sign its kernel modules, had me go through the process, and then failed to install. (via apt). Downloading the deb appeared to fix it, but the actual VM experience wasn't great.
KVM on the other hand, installs (optionally) with the Kubuntu installer, and worked fine out the box.
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@Ichinin@infosec.exchange 2026-03-10 15:09
@mayahustle@infosec.exchange What product are you talking about? If you are talking about Workstation, i installed that (v17.6.4) just fine with pretty much almost nothing that had to be done under Debian 13, just a oneliner to get the Linux headers installed for it to run.
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@DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange 2026-03-10 15:38
@mayahustle@infosec.exchange The enshittification of VMware and VirtualBox were guaranteed when they were acquired by Broadcom and Oracle, the graveyards of tech.