Post #2233472
2025-02-10 19:24 UTC
@calcifer@hackers.town @shanselman@hachyderm.io
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> While Musk had exceled as a self-taught coder, his skills weren’t nearly as polished as those of the new hires. They took one look at Zip2’s code and began rewriting the vast majority of the software. Musk bristled at some of their changes, but the computer scientists needed just a fraction of the lines of code that Musk used to get their jobs done. They had a knack for dividing software projects into chunks that could be altered and refined whereas Musk fell into the classic self-taught coder trap of writing what developers call hairballs—big, monolithic hunks of code that could go berserk for mysterious reasons. The engineers also brought a more refined working structure and realistic deadlines to the engineering group. This was a welcome change from Musk’s approach, which had been to set overly optimistic deadlines and then try to get engineers to work nonstop for days on end to meet the goals. “If you asked Elon how long it would take to do something, there was never anything in his mind that would take more than an hour,” Ambras said. “We came to interpret an hour as really taking a day or two and if Elon ever did say something would take a day, we allowed for a week or two weeks.”
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> Employees at Zip2 would go home at night, come back, and find that Musk had changed their work without talking to them, and Musk’s confrontational style did more harm than good. “Yeah, we had some very good software engineers at Zip2, but I mean, I could code way better than them. And I’d just go in and fix their fucking code,” Musk said. “I would be frustrated waiting for their stuff, so I’m going to go and fix your code and now it runs five times faster, you idiot. There was one guy who wrote a quantum mechanics equation, a quantum probability on the board, and he got it wrong. I’m like, ‘How can you write that?’ Then I corrected it for him. He hated me after that. Eventually, I realized, Okay, I might have fixed that thing but now I’ve made the person unproductive. It just wasn’t a good way to go about things.”
These specific excerpts are from the 2015 Elon Musk book by Ashlee Vance which Elon didn't want written/published
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@calcifer@hackers.town 2025-02-10 19:39
@feld@friedcheese.us @shanselman@hachyderm.io thanks! So he wrote some stuff here and there for Zip2, but it was mostly pretty bad and seems to have been completely replaced before the sale to Compaq. I didn’t know this and I’m always glad to round out my knowledge The top claim was he wrote stuff that became part of PayPal, though, and I don’t think any of the Zip2 stuff did that? AFAIK, Musk was not a technical contributor to the “X.com” that PayPal bought.