Post #2171938

2026-05-06 21:33 UTC

Hi I get your problem with the sticker but I dont agree with your analysis. The statement that only a dead man is a good man ist true but not the only resolution to the problem of men. A person living in society which was born into the role of man can reject it and stop identifying with the perscribed role of a patriarichal system. Thuss I see this message rather in a gender aboltionist view which you can critique but it is not sexist. I think you can make the point that a man in our system can not not have and profit from patriachical power with the exeption of not existing which is either accomplished by dying or actively trying to destroy these privileges for which I'd say you cant be a man. Of course the messaging is quite radical, basically telling men to become class traitors. But I think its not a stretch to belive that the authors of the magazin do not believe that every perso with a dick is a man. The thing that actually icks me about this sticker is the use of the word bastard. Like why is a term used to discredit childreen from people outside of marriage, which for Queer especially homosexual and poly ppl is often not possible, used as an insult. As well as marriage being a shitty construct to preserve patriarchy

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@sa7dse@chaos.social 2026-05-07 06:06

@Ikonaka @Fiona denying "feminist men" their identity is just reinforcing the patriarchy. The patriarchy is the enemy, it is hurts both women and men. It denies men a support network and it won't let men show weakness. So if you tell a man who is not playing his role in the patriarchy, that he is not a man, then you are just forcing him back into his role in the patriarchy.

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@Fiona@blahaj.zone 2026-05-06 22:07

@Ikonaka The thing is, that I fundamentally reject your notion of “men” being a problem. That is an incredibly sexist take in fact. There are men that are bad people (just like there are women and enbies that are bad people!), and there are benefits *and disadvantages, don’t forget about those(!),* to being a man, and there are big issues with the concept of gender roles and what is prescribed in them, but some people (roughly 50% of them in fact), being men is decidedly not a problem! And if you can’t see why, I’d be curious whether you would tell a trans men to his face that he transitioned into “a problem”? The “privileges” that men get where so shit to me, that I believed for a long time that I was only interested in transition because I wanted to escape them so badly. This is what effectively cost me my twenties! Truly amazing how great those privileges were, with there being almost nothing in my life I was happier “loosing”… And calling men who are decent human beings, and most of them are(!), that this makes them class traitors, and less of a man is like the most counterproductive talking point you can make here. That’s like saying “all women are devils, but it’s okay, because you can reject your womanhood and thereby be a good person”… Like, how would you feel about that? Could you take a person making that point serious and respect their opinion on anything remotely related to that topic afterwards? Also, another thing I keep having to remind people of: Having privilege is neither a bad thing, nor something you should reject, nor something that you should feel bad about. The problem with a privilege is that some people do not have it, the goal has to be to give it to everyone! My privilege of having grown up in a family with two loving parents is for example something everyone should have, not something that I need to reject or that we should take away from everyone who has it, that would be the completely wrong approach of just making everyone equally miserable.

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