@joshbressers@infosec.exchange
Post #2126396
2023-06-19 13:48 UTC
Replies (17)
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@simplenomad@rigor-mortis.nmrc.org 2023-06-19 13:56
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange This. So much this. The "wait and see" attitude that some people have with Meta is concerning for this very scenario.
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@hanlsp@mastodon.social 2023-06-19 14:28
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange @cstross@wandering.shop “Wait don’t People remember the … oh, I guess not, that was … Jesus god I’m old”
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@mmby@mastodon.social 2023-06-19 14:40
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange question is though, what to do about it? a large corp could just fork their own version and race ahead in terms of features and fixes - the only option left is to deliberately not play ball with their clients
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@nbtentaclekitten@mastodon.social 2023-06-19 14:51
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange "Oh don't be so paranoid, there's no *proof* the corporate entity that has ruined the last dozen things it has touched is gonna ruin *this* thing. Oh, and Charlie Brown, I'm sure Lucy isn't gonna pull the football away this time and let you kick it for once~"
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@mike@micro.mkp.ca 2023-06-19 14:52
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange It’s not like the fediverse means well to Facebook, either. ;-) They are making an aggressive move but they are also exposing an exploitable surface. Despite their valuation they are not necessarily strategic geniuses…
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@bobhy@mastodon.social 2023-06-19 15:17
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange @ct92 Instructive link and probably does reflect corporate thinking. Arguably EEE from Windows didn't kill Linux, instead made it stronger. (MS no longer touts "Better with Windows", e.g). Maybe same here? Meta's motivations aside, we should be focused on how to engage with Facebook *users*, to show them the advantages of #fediverse life, now that they could leave Facebook itself without leaving all their friends behind.
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@bkhl@social.sdfeu.org 2023-06-19 15:29
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange also could possibly be useful for users of VS Code, GitHub and WSL maybe ...
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@oblomov@sociale.network 2023-06-19 15:46
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange @jwz@mastodon.social somebody should expand that page with the XMPP story. The rhetoric about FB and Google adopting it for their messengers was EXACTLY the same we're seeing today for FB with ActivityPub. It's uncanny.
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@shacker@zirk.us 2023-06-19 15:54
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange Microsoft embraced open source without extinguishing it, or attempting to.
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@halpi@mstdn.social 2023-06-19 16:07
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange from the article you linked “The phrase is no longer used by Microsoft, or describes its current position toward Linux or open source generally. Microsoft has "changed since the days of branding Linux a cancer" and is currently the largest firm contributing to open-source projects.” Maybe it’s not all doom and gloom?
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@monnier@oldbytes.space 2023-06-19 16:45
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange I'd tend to expect that from them, indeed. Whether they'd be able to do that, is less clear: as long as my instance only shows me the posts from accounts/hashtags to which I explicitly subscribed (as opposed to using some algorithm controlled by someone else), there's a chance that ads will make their way only following the same kind of paths as email ads. IOW, my optimistic-self hopes tht maybe it's not much easier to monetize the fediverse than it is to monetize email. In this case, it might be more useful to consider Meta's threat in light of things like Gmail's effect on email.
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@MaggieCi@universeodon.com 2023-06-19 17:23
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
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@MurphysLaw@infosec.exchange 2023-06-19 17:48
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange WOW. V-cool! K-rad!
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@emeritrix@spore.social 2023-06-19 19:08
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange "If Meta’s P92 project became as popular as its other online services, with hundreds of millions of users, it could also swamp the rest of the fediverse. In that case, Meta would be able to diverge from the open standards, for example by blocking the ability of users to migrate to other instances, in a classic case of embrace, extend, and extinguish." https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/meta-explores-mastodon/
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@packy@kalckey.com 2023-06-19 21:16
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange EEE isn't the only way this can end. There are people like me who have the advanced age to truly grok EEE know that it's not the only way things can go.
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@matthieu_xyz@calckey.social 2023-06-19 23:05
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange On the same wikipedia article, you can look at the list of attempts from Microsoft and how many time they failed.
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@dbennett@wandering.shop 2023-06-19 23:32
@joshbressers@infosec.exchange This is the same playbook Sears, Roebuck & Co. used in the late 1800s through the 1960s. They'd place a huge order with a mfr. Once the mfr geared up with new plants and tooling, they'd cancel the order. As the mfr couldn't cover the debt they'd incurred, Sears would buy them out at discount prices and move forward. One would think that some of the many that Sears engulfed would have realized what the game was and took steps to protect themselves, but it never seemed to happen.