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Proof of AI-assisted political profiling by Unruffled @ lemmy.dbzer0.com

2026-05-05 00:35 UTC

from the mod log: https://s.faf-pb.xyz/lXxek The output from the LLM was provided as proof that someone needed to be banned. I didn’t want to do this but my hand was forced by their dissembling, minimization and bullshit. Note how the output includes a nice big logo with a slogan and ascii graphics - this was not a one-off experiment, this is an app they were proud to call their own.

Replies (8)

  • @mrdown@lemmy.world 2026-05-05 00:46

    Why are you surprised? Dbzero is pro AI. Nobody own the fediverse, instsnces has the tight to use whatever tools they want

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  • @rimu@piefed.social is this the cause of your issue yesterday? We talked about this for hours. Just defederate. @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is an admin, he owns the server, he can do what he likes on that server. As I said yesterday, and overwhelmingly everyone chimed in agreeing: This is the nature of the fediverse. You do not get to make rules for the entire fediverse. You are on piefed.social, just block his server from your feed you dislike it so much. Yesterday’s Post

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  • Is this a Lemmy popcorn moment ?

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  • @HubertManne@piefed.social 2026-05-05 02:08

    Meh. As I always say I just want the ability to block instances as and either or for communities and users. if dbzer0 bans me I want to be able to block the communites (mods/admins to me) without blocking the relatively innocent (possibly) users. although wow. looking at it that is pretty creepy in a way. Its kinda funny as it might be one of the bigger issues (israels treatment of palestine) around if it were not for the state of my own country.

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  • Rimu, this is your third time in a week starting shit with db0 admins. None of what you’ve done recently has inspired any confidence from me in you or your projects. Given the side you picked during the recent lemmy.world drama, your posts come across more like hitpieces than well thought out complaints. Also, wtf is up with you calling the entire idea of decentralization into question? Internet services require resources to run, and the barrier to entry for hosting an instance is relatively low. It’s absurd to call instances feudal fiefdoms when anybody with a bit of time and disposable income can theoretically set one up. What is the alternative, all those “fiefdoms” needing to report to a monarch who will only use their power to protect marginalized groups from bigotry(trust me bro)? What makes it especially egregious is that you aren’t simply a user or even an instance admin, but the head developer of an entire section of the fediverse. You are not a neutral party arguing ideals, you are a person who could theoretically try to crown yourself king. You focusing so much of your efforts on attacking instances that you have ideological problems with is worrying. I wouldn’t trust an admin like that to protect me from bigotry on their server, nor would I want them to dictate moderation for instances on their platform. Since you seem so keen on highlighting how your instance bans fewer people than others, how could I trust you to not mandate tolerance of a “diversity of opinions” like another notable instance that gives fewer bans?

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  • @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-05 06:31

    Another hit piece from rimu against /0. Must be a day that ends with -y… EDIT: Here’s rimu admitting that this is all based on a single modlog and him just making assumptions based on that and that alone. Here’s the series of events as I understand it Rimu sees a two-week-old public modlog entry from unruffled banning a zionist as per our instance rules. Rimu visits the public evidence linked and discovers that it’s a dump of the comments of said zionist, and it includes an LLM summary of those Rimu sees the FAF logo on the pastebin. Rimu assumes that even though it’s clearly not a FAF domain, since it has the FAF logo, it’s an official FAF tool. This is false. Rimu sees the LLM summmary and assumes that the banning happened due to the LLM summary. This is false Rimu assumes that the tool that gathered these comments is automated. This is false Rimu assumes that because it looks like an official tool, and despite the fact that he can only find a single modlog entry, all of the instance admins are regularly using it. This is false. Rimu concludes that the instance is using an automated LLM judgement mechanism for instance moderation. This is egregiously false Rimu does not reach out to any of our instance admins for clarification, even though we exist in the same instance-cooperation matrix channels. Even though our instance admins explicitly reached out to him earlier this month and asked to contact them for any questions/cooperation in order to avoid further drama and escalations. Note that there’s a reason why journalists ask for comments before publishing information. Rimu doesn’t do any other due diligence. Rimu rushes to publish with a cross-post to mastodon, because he knows the knee-jerk GenAI-hate there is much stronger than on threadiverse. When called on any of the false and misleading statements he’s made by multiple people in the comments, Rimu completely ignores everyone countering him and all arguments, not to mention being so confused he doesn’t even know if he’s talking about mods or admins. I’ll leave the fact of why Rimu was randomly going through 2-week old modlogs of banned zionists as an interesting open-ended question.

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  • @Nora@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-05-05 13:46

    Really not a fan of repeatedly seeing these oddly specific posts jumping to conclusions and “just asking questions.” It feels like an incredibly aggressive disinformation campaign from one of those “rationality” yotubers. Like the conclusion has already been decided and you went out to find data to support it.

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  • This reads like ragebait or a hit piece, but I don’t even know what I’m supposed to rage about? We all use some sort of automod bot to flag or even ban accounts. We’ve all banned accounts for way less. Am I supposed to be offended that this user, of all people, was banned from anywhere? Or that an LLM summary is linked in the modlog for it? If an admin reviewed it, why should I care? Am I supposed to get mad about political profiling? /looks around to literally everywhere in the fediverse and gestures wildly. My only gripe is it would maybe be more environmentally friendly to just skim that profile instead of using an LLM but whatever. “Save the planet, ban people with the old ban hammer.” IDK this whole thing feels like stirring shit for the sake of it. WTF is even the point of this post.

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