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Post #1993664

2026-03-21 02:05 UTC

My dude, if there are obvious moral and ethical implications, how are you able to "put them aside" so easily? I just don't get it

Replies (13)

  • @Joshsharp@aus.social 2026-03-21 09:11

    Gonna mute this thread now. That's more than enough being perceived on the internet for one day.

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  • @sinvega@mas.to 2026-03-21 02:20

    @Joshsharp putting aside the obvious moral and ethical issues, it's also clearly limited to spewing out useless generic shit by design. But it must be fine for me to use it for convenience, somehow. why would the people selling it lie

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  • @viraptor@cyberplace.social 2026-03-21 03:55

    @Joshsharp Honest answer: The same way that I'm writing this on a phone which both in the production process and as a software-social ecosystem has obvious moral and ethical implications. Or how I use retirement investment funds which likely prop up the price of many terrible corporations. Nothing's perfect and we make imperfect choices of balancing comfort of life with the world impact every single day.

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  • @Joshsharp i can put them aside *temporarily*, while i make the argument that they don't work from a pragmatic perspective. because if they don't work, the only reason to use them is for the moral and ethical implications…

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  • @Dangerous_beans@aus.social 2026-03-21 04:56

    @Joshsharp you don't get far in the tech industry if you're not able to

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  • @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me 2026-03-21 06:04

    @Joshsharp Well, I see it as a manner of approaching things that's similar to your typical anti-social politician.

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  • @Joshsharp I would say we all (industrial countries, middle-class) have years of practice in putting aside moral and ethical implications of our way of life. AI is just another instance of the same problem. In our wealth and our perceived superiority, we convince one another that we have a right to prosperity at the expense of others and cling to our privileges. Our media, politics, culture, and lifestyle enable this cognitive dissonance. Fuel by greed and capitalism.

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  • @hopeless@mas.to 2026-03-21 07:38

    @Joshsharp It's simple, they said that to forestall a tiresome lecture. For training coding AIs, anything with a liberal license is on board with it according to the license. At least as far as that goes (most of github's contents...) there aren't any "moral and ethical implications".

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  • @Joshsharp if I had to guess, there are no obvious consequences of doing so. One doesn't need to worry after DDoSing the websites of multiple people on the Internet, not unless one does it to a powerful and wealthy person or corporation.

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  • @rakoo@blah.rako.space 2026-03-21 10:54

    @Joshsharp white people have been putting moral and ethical implications on the side for so long it's a second nature to them. You can't build a global hegemony without doing that. That's unfortunately not surprising

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  • @dalias@hachyderm.io 2026-03-21 12:49

    @Joshsharp "Putting aside the obvious moral and ethical implications, rounding up all of the AI fans and beating beating them to a pulp would really solve the problem with AI slop."

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  • @Joshsharp In the economy of unfettered wealth, the point of moral and ethical obligations is to put them aside. The immoral see morality as a straw man argument.

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  • @Ooze@wirejunkie.net 2026-03-22 21:50

    @Joshsharp Morality features in nobody's KPIs. This sentiment has been around for a very long time. Think about how long the expression "it's not personal, it 's just business" has been around, That means "All I care about is money".

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