Post #1947518
2026-04-28 11:43 UTC
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@snowyfox@deadinsi.de 2026-04-28 11:47
Not to mention the landscape of migration in the world right now is absolutely nothing like what the borders want (namely imperial-style isolationism). There's tonnes of people running away from their country's conditions, or trying to make ends meet financially through other countries, which is why they're forcibly going through whatever jank illegal half-legal trafficking whatever mechanism ever to get themselves into countries. And they're literally succeeding, unless you implement North Korea style enforcement. You get this weird thing where immigrants are either of dubious legality or extremely rich, no in between 2/2
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@ww@xyzzy.link 2026-04-28 12:02
@snowyfox visa diplomacy is heavily based on reciprocity—like, if our citizens wanna go to that other country, then we probably have to let that country's people come over here, cause otherwise why would they let us in.. but then if you're from a poorer country that desperately needs tourism, it kinda doesn't have that leverage, and wealthier countries don't have to allow you in to get favors.. so it's less which people are desired, and more, legal discrimination based on nationality. and then there's the eu, which uses its visa policy to blackmail other countries into accepting deportations and strengthening their own borders, so that people that would pass through them on their way to the eu, stay where they are instead..
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@NicolaElle@chaosfem.tw 2026-04-28 12:45
@snowyfox I got lucky - incredibly lucky. I qualified for dual citizenship in an EU country under jus sanguinis, and the total cost to activate that citizenship ended up about $1000. Even this is more than many people can afford - and, again, this was incredibly lucky, a combination of accident of birth and really doing my homework, desperation to find a way. A friend of mine I know can also qualify under jus sanguinis, for her own country of ancestry, but it would cost about $3000, and this is more than she feels she can afford. As a former department chair at a university in the United States, I was tangentially involved in the visa and citizenship process for those I worked with. Easily over $15k - and this was long before Trump started jacking up the prices. In many cases, as you point out, dual citizenship or "golden visas" in countries, even those welcoming, cost north of $100k. The reason they have this value is because of a cruel question. What is the value of a human life? Borders are killing people. People kill for them, and people are killed by them. And it's well past time we start acknowledging that.