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Is Palantir just a privatized NSA?

2026-04-25 11:45 UTC

Just occured to me that functionally that seems to be their role. Conspiratorially, super troubling. Viewed this way, it’s essentially the NSA without political oversight (what little the NSA had to begin with).

Replies (12)

  • Basically but kinda worse because they don't have as much regulation. So they kinda work in conjunction with the NSA to bypass warrants and stuff

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  • @1984@lemmy.today 2026-04-25 19:53

    Future is going to be awful for everyone except the owner class.

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  • @9point6@lemmy.world 2026-04-25 15:24

    Worse, the NSA is (theoretically) below the government in the pecking order Palantir are trying to elevate themselves above governments That's a bad thing because ostensibly democracy allows us to influence the government, there's very little we can do to influence palantir

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  • @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-25 14:23

    It would be more accurate to say that Palantir functionally runs the intelligence agencies of every country it embeds itself in. Just not 'officially'. Welcome to the cyberpunk dystopia, corporations run everything, nation-states are basically just bureaucracies and propoganda devices, with guns. Of course we've had PMCs for quite a while now, so corpos have the guns too.

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  • @zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-25 21:08

    No. The NSA is not just developing, but mainly executing orders (actual intelligence work). Palantir is a software/platform/service provider. It is very likely that no employee of Palantir gets to see any sensitive data at all.

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  • @mydude@lemmy.world 2026-04-25 12:21

    Also, plausable deniability and no public transparency (because copyright)...

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  • @20cello@lemmy.world 2026-04-25 12:54

    They name everything after the lord of the ring, can't be unseen

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  • @DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2026-04-25 12:24

    With any luck a foreign state actor will do the species a favour and assassinate Peter Thiel.

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  • @kbal@fedia.io 2026-04-25 16:11

    I'm not much of a fan of the NSA or anything, but that comparison seems unfair to the NSA. I imagine Palantir is more like a souped-up bullshit-ridden profit-driven Stasi.

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  • @hypna@lemmy.world 2026-04-25 12:48

    Palantir is a data analysis company. Data analysis is just one part of what the NSA does. Other important functions of the NSA include cyber warfare, cryptography, and data collection. I have not read that Palantir does any of that.

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  • @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2026-04-26 06:45

    the palantir AI famously is being used in israel for giving targets of palastine and iranian targets for bombings. its also being used in ukraine apparently. most recently thiel (Karp is just his puppet) is trying to get most governments, US, and EU to use for LEO to sureveillance political dissidents under the guise of age verification and children protection.

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  • Yes

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