Post #1678823
2026-01-06 13:06 UTC
Replies (10)
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@TheMNWolf@furry.engineer 2026-01-06 13:24
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de It turns out that refusing to spend money is not actually the same thing as saving money. Who knew? 🙄
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@katnjiapus@twoot.site 2026-01-06 13:33
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de Refusing to spend money on infrastructure, and making tickets so expensive no one can afford it? :blobPikaWoozy:
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@cptodin@twoot.site 2026-01-06 14:01
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de doing it the german way, I see
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@evdelen@mstdn.ca 2026-01-06 14:13
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de I do find it odd that rail networks continue to rely on propane or methane powered blowers to do their winter switch clearing. Wouldn't an electric heat strip applied directly to the rail (specifically part of the web) be more efficient? Direct contact with the surface and simply a small increase in temperature compared to ambient is enough to create conditions for direct sublimation of any snow that lands on the rail head. For an example, look at cars that are covered in snow on a bright sunny day, the greenhouse effect causes the car to increase in temperature (though not above freezing) and it causes the snow on the car to sublimate away at a much greater speed than the surrounding.] An always on strip would also better prevent the accumulation of snow since all parts of the mechanism would be heated, there wouldn't be any dead zones or debris likely to prevent sufficient air flow. Strange...
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@evey@chaos.social 2026-01-06 15:01
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de Ye a good old bezuinigdmaatregel van de roverheid that is now beeing like helloooo
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@frankrolf@typo.social 2026-01-06 16:32
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de @kai@typo.social The money “saved” is an expense that’s transferred to travelers in a pinch. Who benefits? Uber. Uber rates: 70€ from Leiden to Schiphol last night, another 70€ from Amsterdam-Zuid to Schiphol this morning. Can’t speak of “robbery in broad daylight” because the sun wasn’t up in either of those moments.
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@joepie91@fedi.slightly.tech 2026-01-06 20:07
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de Hm. I don't know that it's that simple in this case. The rail network performance this year actually seemed to be better than in previous snowy years (the first day of snow there were practically no outages at all!), and I know they're also just removing entire track switches that are no longer needed (and that's responsible for at least part of the heating system removals). Like, to be clear, we're 100% going to get in increasing amounts of trouble on our rail network after two decades of increasingly cutting down public spending on transit. But I'm not so sure that this specific case is an instance of that.
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@jarjan@mederland.nl 2026-01-06 21:31
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de Met dank aan de #VVD en consorten... Want financiële efficiëntie boven alles! (De burger zoekt het verder zelf maat uit...) Dom, asociaal landsbestuur... 😒
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@storydragon@dragonscave.space 2026-01-06 22:19
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de The article does mention though the fact that there are a lot of switches that are not regularly used, and that those switches are locked into one position in wintery weather. It would be indeed a waste of money to heat such switches. :ms_shrug: They also say that there are usually 'other factors' where trouble comes from in wintery weather. No further explanation is given though.
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@Anneke@front-end.social 2026-01-07 10:13
@Aurora_Bee@deadinsi.de let’s be fair, they are saying it shouldn’t have this impact because they are ‘removing’ it from places that are used less. I feel the problem is that in the biggest problem areas (the west of the country) the system is not using the electric heating yet because they only install it when they’re already working on the part of the train way (traject) for efficiency as our train network is very busy especially where it is now a problem.