Post #1590983

2025-10-29 15:38 UTC

@PermaSolarPotter @gardening One problem with Permaculture is that it often occurs in isolation on a social level. I don't think it's easy for single family to achieve a closed-loop Permaculture system. It might be feasible with small community farms. Even then, you need to get inputs and other things that you can't manufacture from outside your system. But perfect is the enemy of done. Better to try at least something and move the discussion forward than not doing anything.

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@ubi@ecoevo.social 2025-10-29 15:43

@PermaSolarPotter @gardening A decade ago Urban Biodiversity were just small things that me and my friends were trying out in my country. Now every developer has a sustainability unit and they're fighting each to be the greenest and most biodiverse. It's a bit hypocritical, but at least it's something and it's getting more mainstream. I think it's the same for Permaculture, you need to show people what is possible. You need to start the discussion even if it's an imperfect prototype.

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@PermaSolarPotter@mastodon.green 2025-10-29 17:15

@ubi This is an important insight. We can’t do it alone. As much as we try to be community-minded, I think that what we are doing, the way the way our yard looks, etc. is not appealing to most people. We give away plant starts & produce when we can but our neighbors are not attracted to a yard that looks dry during a drought or goes through seasonal cycles. One thing we do is use our neighbors’ raked leaves & pine needles for mulch but it hasn’t inspired them to do the same.

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@danbrotherston@types.pl 2026-04-13 04:46

@ubi @PermaSolarPotter @gardening I think this whole thing is an understandable rejection of modern capitalism, but subsistence farming is not an ideal. Working together in communities is what makes us human, it’s what makes us capable of doing incredible things.

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