Fallout: New Vegas dev says don't expect a remaster, argues Bethesda doesn't have the source code or 'the engineering knowhow'
2026-04-21 20:37 UTC
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@realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 2026-04-21 21:16
"_Copilot please remaster Fallout New Vegas_ " - Sadya Nadella, probably
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@sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-21 21:21
Yeah, we know Bethseda does not have 'the engineering knowhow', we've known that for like a decade now. That the author considers this 'an eyebrow raising assertion' betrays that they understand nothing about games on the backend, or how development actually works. > Avellone argues there's a unique roadblock with New Vegas: "the very last milestone" Bethesda gave Obsidian Entertainment was to "deliver all the source code and the ability to make the build" for $10,000. > > "For reasons unknown to me, but I have suspicions, [Obsidian studio head] Feargus [Urquhart] decided not to cash out that milestone, and did not deliver it," says Avellone. "It's not a strange decision if you feel, which would not be out of the realms of possibility, that the New Vegas experience cheated him out of X amount of money. You pull away all their bonuses, a decade ago, for missing a review score mandate by one point. For a game with barely enough dev time allocated to it, for a dev cycle that would have been 100% crunch before crunch became a term people use. Its the best 3D Fallout game that exists. Its a game that largely revolves around revenge on some asshole who fucked you over. And Bethesda wants to now remake it, probably looking to make a lot more than $10k. Yeah, gee, I have no idea why they didn't go for that last stretch goal, yep, no clue. EDIT: Now excuse me while I laugh, and whistle _Heartache by the Numbers_.
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@A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 03:39
New Vegas doesnt need a remaster, anyway. It needs a Re***make***
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@akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 2026-04-21 23:15
Virginity: I'm the only thing you can lose and never get back 🥰\ Source code: Hold my beer 🍺
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@blarth@thelemmy.club 2026-04-22 16:01
Arguably the people who created New Vegas didn’t have the engineering know how, lol.
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@TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 2026-04-22 04:34
Bethesda really shouldn't be allowed to own these IPs anymore at this point, idk who in the AAA scene would do a better job, but something's gotta give. They don't give a single shit.
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@Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 20:30
Bethesda also kept them from getting a fat payout so the devs are very unlikely to help.
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@Renacles@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 11:11
That sounds a bit strange, the source code for nearly every script that handles quests, mechanics and such is bundled with the game and what modders have been using since release. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, I don't see why a remaster like Oblivion's would be impossible. It runs on top of the original game anyways.
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@Kolanaki@pawb.social 2026-04-22 00:52
Well yeah. It was made by Obsidian, not Bethesda. And we already knew Bethesda had no engineering know-how when New Vegas originally launched 🤷♂️
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@njm1314@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 05:29
They didn't need to add the last part but I'm so glad that they did
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@Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 00:51
Just make a new game. This remaster bullshit is awful. You don’t even need to make a new game engine, just use the assets you have and make more stories. Call it a dlc and put the original game out there for $20 and the dlc for $50 and all you had to really invest in were story writers, a few expensive devs to make new assets, and a room of 1099s to help fix code issues.
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@slaacaa@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 05:53
Copilot: New Vegas
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@RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 02:42
I do find it odd that Bethesda, as the IP rights holder and publisher of the game, was not given a copy of the source code? Whats the story with that?
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@Cytobit@piefed.social 2026-04-22 11:49
Avellone bragging that his game's code has security-through-spaghetti.
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@fun_times@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 08:18
I dream of a sequel that focuses on the consequences of the legion falling apart after the second battle of hoover dam. Basically a game where one faction wants to turn the remnants of the legion into a unified democratic republic (perhaps a mixture of the Roman senate and the NCR), another faction wants to find a new caesar (and possibly reform some of the stupider sides of the old legion) and a third faction just wants to go back to being a bunch of independent tribes that only trade with each other. You would play as the grown up child of a legionaire who died at hoover dam and a slave who was sold off to somewhere else when you were young.
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@vga@sopuli.xyz 2026-04-22 05:31
They could hand it over to Nightdive Studios. They did a banger job with System Shock. Eventually.
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@Mwa@thelemmy.club 2026-04-22 20:46
so people have to reverse engineer the game and try to make a remaster ig?
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@Laricheard@lemmy.zip 2026-04-23 18:21
I find the idea that all old games need remasters/remakes very disrespectful tbh. Artists worked hard on those games back in the day. I can justify improvements to performance but updating visuals such as lighting and textures to be prettier or more realistic often misunderstands what the original game was going for.
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@jasoman@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 19:15
Just like trading in rocket league. So sad.
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@psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2026-04-22 00:24
That's a bit silly thing to say tbh. There's nothing special about NV that can't be recreated without source code.
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@billwashere@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 14:46
Sounds like an excuse more than a reason.
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@nightlily@leminal.space 2026-04-23 10:28
Ah yes because F:NV was such a technical masterpiece. What a ragebait statement.
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@Dearth@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 01:36
I never played new Vegas. I hadn't played a fallout game since fallout 2. I bought new Vegas when it was on steam sale for $0.99. I was having fun playing, exploring the wastes. Got about 20 hours into it and now it won't open. Game crashes as soon as i click load save. So disappointing. I finally get to new Vegas and meet mr house. And i can't do anything else.
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@NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 00:02
Reboot reboot reboot
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@BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 2026-04-22 03:21
Obsidian hasn't made a good game since... So why are they throwing shade?