Post #1461174

2025-11-25 21:35 UTC

@GrapheneOS @watchfulcitizen > You linked to another highly inaccurate and extremely biased article. You mean... biased in your favour, you know that, right? Here's the last paragraph, translated for any reader's convenience: (full disclosure: I agree with GrapheneOS that they've been unfairly portrayed by Le Parisien and on the political predicament in France, however I don't think their project is any less security theater than other extant Android forks. Regardless, one can see that for the pigs, not wanting Google in your pocket, that's suspect. "Don't stand out", I guess.) > Rather than doing your own research, you're basing your claims on another inaccurate article which is wrongly blaming a right wing newspaper for it. No, I went to google.fr's News tab, typed "GrapheneOS", and sifted through the first three pages, finding only Le Parisien and Le Figaro as reputable news source, and then linuxfr as an opinion piece. You'll find attached a screenshot of the first page of results. The second page only contains technical articles about trying out GOS or explaining what it is. (Again, if there's “massive” coverage, I'm missing it. And the secondary sources I see only quote these two papers, not any TV source either.) Again, since the two articles are paywalled, I cannot offer further comment on the rest of your (second) post.

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@issotm@social.treehouse.systems 2025-11-25 21:53

@GrapheneOS @watchfulcitizen > discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27068-grapheneos-security-preview-releases has more info and third party sources on Fairphone, iodéOS and /e/. The only instances of the letters "fair" are three copies of "fairly" on page 2 (yes, I have JS disabled :P), I can't find any mentions of iodé or /e/ either. Did you link to the wrong thread? > iodéOS and /e/ are extraordinarily insecure and non-private. *shrug* Not much worse than a stock ROM tbh. Not super diligent with security updates? I know plenty of people who procrastinate installing updates anyway, and we're all going alright with our lives. Maybe I'm gonna get hacked, but living in paranoia is not worth it, so I've chosen a balance of slightly increased privacy + not Play Services + runs on a phone I have (I avoid e-waste and things made in China when I can). And yeah, I *do* have things to hide :P > iodéOS is openly partnered with scammers including Robert Braxman. Are they? I could only find info listing that the latter uses the former, but no official endorsement of the former towards the latter. (Again, DDG search on "iodéOS robert braxman".)

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@GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social 2025-11-25 22:11

@issotm@social.treehouse.systems @watchfulcitizen@goingdark.social > I agree with GrapheneOS that they've been unfairly portrayed by Le Parisien This is missing the point of what we've been saying. GrapheneOS has been misrepresented by French law enforcement including false claims. > I don't think their project is any less security theater than other extant Android forks That's an extraordinarily inaccurate belief. GrapheneOS preserves all the standard privacy/security model/features and greatly enhances it vs. the direct opposite.

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