Post #1461172

2025-11-25 18:22 UTC

@issotm @watchfulcitizen iodéOS and /e/ are extraordinarily insecure and non-private. iodéOS is openly partnered with scammers including Robert Braxman. Both companies (iodé and Murena) have misled people about GrapheneOS for years including misrepresenting it as not for regular people. In doing so, they helped build the narratives now being used by law enforcement to mislead people about GrapheneOS. https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private has more info and third party sources on Fairphone, iodéOS and /e/.

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@issotm@social.treehouse.systems 2025-11-25 21:27

@GrapheneOS @watchfulcitizen Alright, so... I took the time to do some more searches, read your messages, and read some of that giant thread you've linked to. > [The journals a]re doing it because state agencies contacted them. Most of the articles are quotes. I can't speak for the contents of the Parisien or Figaro article, because they're paywalled. I would however like to point out that the Figaro's headline specifically uses the word “misused” (« détourné »), implying that this is *not* the use case y'all have intended for it. > Do you consider state-funded news in France to be right wing? Arguably, given our political direction these last few years, I'd say yes lol. But neither of the above two is state-funded, and since I don't have access to the contents I can't say they got the info from state agencies. How'd you know? > There's a massive amount of coverage Is there? I could only find three articles: [Le Parisien](https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/google-pixel-et-grapheneos-la-botte-secrete-des-narcotrafiquants-pour-proteger-leurs-donnees-de-la-police-19-11-2025-NTGPQE4JCNGEHLF7XGIQ3CCA2I.php), [Le Figaro](https://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/qu-est-ce-que-grapheneos-ce-logiciel-detourne-par-certains-trafiquants-pour-supprimer-les-informations-de-leur-telephone-20251119), and [francetvinfo](https://www.franceinfo.fr/faits-divers/narcotrafic-les-autorites-alertent-sur-l-utilisation-d-un-systeme-d-exploitation-de-telephone-pour-echapper-aux-forces-de-l-ordre_7631510.html) (more on that one below). > The journalists are not doing their job by taking that as fact and not giving a chance for us to respond to specifics, sure. Actually, the francetvinfo article contains two lengthy paragraphs of your response. And... claiming that you're a non-profit is kind of missing the point? Like, yeah, sure, but what happened still happened. I agree with the rest of your stance, but I'm afraid this kind of thing does paint you in a bad light. But what do I know, I'm just a single guy :P

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