Post #1351790
2025-10-20 14:47 UTC
Replies (15)
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@HaraldKi@nrw.social 2025-10-20 15:13
@corbet@social.kernel.org Can't be boosted often enough.👆 The Future: premium devices will have the label "certified to work without Internet".
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@BoloMKXXVIII@mastodon.social 2025-10-20 16:42
@corbet@social.kernel.org Home Assistant without internet access. If your IoT device won't work in this environment, return it.
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@Paulinebvr@todon.eu 2025-10-20 17:51
@corbet@social.kernel.org I own only dumb stuff, even analog timers. Also my robots are dumb and they work fine.
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@richlv@mastodon.social 2025-10-20 19:01
@corbet@social.kernel.org Agree with the message, but the stupid AI slop message in the article make this unshareable for me. Piss on carpet.
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@chrisp@cyberplace.social 2025-10-20 21:14
@corbet@social.kernel.org Not enough people take stuff back to the store. Story time. I replaced the "3 weeks of printing" printer cartridges that my HP printer shipped with, with third party cartridges, it worked fine until they updated it to not worth with third party cartridges. I knew the update was coming, it was all over tech news, but I hated the idea of it. I took it back to the store, feined innocence and they sent it away to HP. A few weeks later they sent it back with a new "3 week" printer cartridge..
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@ewen@social.ewenbell.com 2025-10-20 21:23
@corbet@social.kernel.org Talented fellow to pull it apart and then put it back together! That morsel of advice, to never use the same WiFi for IoT devices and your actual computers is something most people ignore. It's a major effort to setup, and the priority slides down the list unless something out of the ordinary nudges them.
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@Miro_Collas@masto.ai 2025-10-20 23:03
@corbet@social.kernel.org Yet another example of #enshittification. @pluralistic@mamot.fr writes about things like this quite often. Example: https://pluralistic.net/2025/10/20/post-american-internet/#huawei-with-american-characteristics
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@mupuf@social.treehouse.systems 2025-10-21 03:33
@corbet@social.kernel.org I refuse to buy any robot I cannot take control over using Valetudo. I converted our second robot just this Sunday, 5 years after buying and converting our first one. Now we have two working ones, and they free up so much time! PS: the full conversion process took a bit less than 2h despite needing full disassembly (the Roborock S6 Pure isn't the easiest to root, but it was super cheap second hand at just 89€).
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@megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.social 2025-10-21 04:54
@corbet@social.kernel.org Yeah getting a second hand one and installing Valetudo on it one day.
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@benjaoming@social.data.coop 2025-10-21 08:15
@corbet@social.kernel.org I wish the author had skipped AI: Just be yourself! The authenticity and trustworthiness implied in this post is super-low. On HN, there's some interaction with the author, indicating authenticity. But I think ultimately, the problem is that everything depends on interpretation of a single log line and an accusation that the company bricked the device as a retaliation. I enjoyed all the tips on spotting AI-generated language: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45503560
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@Frank_Engelhard@mastodon.social 2025-10-21 13:34
@corbet@social.kernel.org @Consumentenbond@mastodon.social
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@mottokrosh@social.mottokrosh.com 2025-10-21 13:37
@corbet@social.kernel.org @brucelawson@social.vivaldi.net Fascinating.
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@Mei@mastodon.moule.world 2025-10-21 17:10
@corbet@social.kernel.org I've experienced this back when I had a lot of "smart" appliances. Got rid of them all after it became too much. :MeiCry:
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@lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net 2025-10-21 22:00
@corbet@social.kernel.org The Philipp K. Dick estate will sue for copyright infringement... (note that someone suing reality for copyright infringement would actually be extremely Dickian)
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@CavedaleRhones@sfba.social 2025-10-24 01:54
@corbet@social.kernel.org Interesting article. You blocked the IP address, but what port were they using for communications? I am guessing it wasn’t one you wanted your router firewall to block. Thanks.