Goodbye device ownership, and the last vestiges of free speech will die with this bill as well.
2026-04-16 20:01 UTC
Replies (40)
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@markon@lemmy.world 2026-04-22 01:55
If they wanna start a hot revolution it is coming.
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@4grams@awful.systems 2026-04-17 12:16
If this thread is any indication, we’re cooked. If this many people are willing to give the government the benefit of the doubt, after what we’re dealing with… This will not be benign, it will seem innocent at first, but we’ll have given up yet another seemingly simple thing that will eventually be used against us.
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@Formfiller@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 03:00
They can’t even arrest the pedophiles in government but they want to mass surveil us for everything.
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@Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2026-04-16 20:08
No it wont. Because we're gonna light shit on fire until this goes away, ICE melts, and the hostages are released from the internment camps. Right?
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@NutWrench@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 19:16
1) This bill is being pushed by Meta and they are NOT going to stop with age verification. It is not about "protecting children" and it never has been. It's always been about surveillance and control. Meta wants to know who you are, where you are, what you buy, what you download, who you associate with and what your politics are. 2) If Meta succeeds in putting all this on your computer at the operating system level, then what is the point of even having a VPN anymore? Also Meta will sell this information to anyone who asks for it.
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@Treczoks@lemmy.world 2026-04-16 21:26
And written by a Democrat. They really have become useless. First they regularly forget that they are opposition for a reason, and now they even betray their voters with the most stupid law humans can cook up.
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@jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-16 22:37
Or a parent could, I don't know, just parent their own kids instead of expecting the government to.
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@empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-16 21:54
"Parents Decide Act" Yet text of it has basically nothing about parents in it, just government data collection lol
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@qaeta@lemmy.ca 2026-04-17 21:22
Parents ALREADY decided. They decided they didn't give enough of a shit to use the parental controls already available to them. No legitimate reason to push this shit on everyone else.
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@FE80@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 13:05
Donate here: https://www.eff.org/ https://epic.org/ https://cdt.org/ https://www.aclu.org/ Get off Android if you can: https://grapheneos.org/ https://lineageos.org/ https://e.foundation/e-os/ Pick a Linux distro to try on a beater laptop (save yourself some trouble and just use Ubuntu to start): https://distrowatch.com/
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@InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2026-04-17 12:02
"and for other purposes" umm
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@hackitfast@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 18:31
Disgusting. This is my representative, I unfortunately voted him in. Our president is a pedophile and we still get the "for the children" bullshit. How about making a law requiring tracking the data on the Epstein class phones instead? I sent a letter to him, hopefully enough people do.
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@lemmyng@lemmy.world 2026-04-16 23:21
https://5calls.org/ Tell your reps that this bill doesn't get a chance to breathe if they ever want your support in future elections.
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@phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2026-04-17 00:00
To paraphrase someone: You need to win every time. I need you to lose only once. Anyone thinking that this won't pass this time, or next year, or the year after that or the year... They will push this as a new thing, wrapping the same bullshit lies in a new paper each time... Eventually it'll pass, it always does. All they need is patience The only possible cou ter to this is to enshrine the right to own a computer and internet access into your constitution or something like that.
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@emmy67@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 06:09
This is how the democrats lose the next election. GJ snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. *Again*
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@minorkeys@lemmy.world 2026-04-16 20:28
Remember when windows implemented a feature that took a screenshot of your PC every 5 seconds or whatever? Now they know exactly whose screenshots those are and basically surveille your PC use as if watching from behind your back? Yeah...we know what they want. They want to effectively disarm our ability to use computers to challenge them. God knows what they're planning to implement after this goes through. It's not just about the laws they're passing, it's about what those laws enable them to do. Sure windows rolled back that feature, but it's still there. They didn't remove the code, they just changed what triggers it and if the PC user knows or not.
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@someone@lemmy.today 2026-04-17 19:12
I disagree with all of you. Now that our benevolent theocratic autocratic overlords have decided to track everything we say and do and escape is impossible, I completely support their brave new dystopian agenda. All hail the wonderful leaders!
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@willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-18 09:43
That bill had just been introduced. It is a loooooong way from passing. No need to panic. This is not our doom yet. Now is the time to give those representatives a call, mention the bill number, and tell them in a few logical and polite sentenses why this bill is a terrible idea. Fuck this bill. And it's not going to be too late to use the less polite methods later. We lose nothing by trying to be polite first.
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@GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 20:10
maybe for you...but not for me. I'll switch back to a dumb phone and run a Linux distro so obscure nobody's seen it for 25 years. fuck em. I'll never comply with this shit.
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@grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 21:32
Obligatory: the Democrats are not here to save you. Fascism with a smug smile instead of a sneer.
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@LostWanderer@fedia.io 2026-04-16 20:16
We will keep defeating these nasty bills, we have to keep pushing and not just giving into what the government wants. As what the government wants is nasty as fuck! There will be means to circumvent such changes, Ageless Linux is working on categorizing the methods of evasion, keeping track of what Linux distros are deciding and doing in regards to Age Verification.
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@FireWire400@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 03:59
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@GroundedGator@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 12:53
This might be the most anemic open ended bill I have ever read. On its face, it has no teeth. The most well defined portions of the bill are to make sure that applications have access to age data. Making this look more like a way for corporations to gather data and verify real people as opposed to online personas. There is zero regulation actually defined and instead they have a 180 day period to define the regulation and a year for it to be contacted and implemented. The bill could pass tomorrow and we still wouldn't know what age verification looks like. As scary as these efforts are, they are also a bit humorous to me. By and large software exists independently of its creator, especially in the FOSS space. There would be no way to require an individual to install an OS that supported this or even use an updated browser that supported it. Ultimately, the only way to really enforce any sort of age verification system is to force all content providers to have an age verification step. This presents as OS level, but you have to give people a reason to upgrade in order to implement. If Wikipedia suddenly required some sort of OS based age verification protocol to access its content, it would become a lot harder to avoid. They are putting this at the OS level, but I think this is a way to back into removing anonymous access to the Internet.
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@mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 2026-04-18 04:18
Using parental control is too hard so leave it to the government huh what a fucking joke
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@lemonskate@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 02:25
I've seen a lot of people saying how this will be unenforceable and so isn't something we need to worry about. Except this could be enforced. Google came out with a proposal a few years ago for a method of validating the a request came from a "trusted" (aka, signed and with secure boot enabled OS), ostensibly to combat bot traffic. They dropped it after push back, but it still provides a blueprint for how this could be enforced. https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-Integrity If web platforms are mandated by law to enforce something like this then the web could be effectively restricted to only approved operating systems. There could still be a dark web, but with the weight of the law behind it, once anything gained momentum access to it could be shut down at the service provider layer. This shouldn't be dismissed as a threat because it's "unenforceable", because it is.
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@yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 2026-04-17 05:24
still have no idea how they will implement this, with phones that can be rooted or running something like lineageOS or others. But in any case, I am glad I am not from the US.
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@degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 2026-04-16 20:57
Wouldn't this just be unenforceable for any Linux distros not directly owned/maintained by a US-based corporation? I don't really see how they could force a distro to comply, unless they start going after individual maintainers who live in the US.
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@pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2026-04-17 13:44
They're gonna call it The Super Duper American Act
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@chrislowles@lemmy.zip 2026-04-17 14:52
This coming up not a fortnight after his floundering interview with The Bulwark is some Curb Your Enthusiasm level comedy, there's not even really an "at best" to look for in American politics, a handful of progressive anomalies that came about after MONTHS of tireless campaigning that we can only pray result in a trend toward some kind of wave but that's it, pay the right Democrat just enough money and they'll be dancing like a GOP worm.
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@axet@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 09:28
You can turn it around with: https://www.change.org/in-god-we-trust
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@AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 04:57
The app "5 calls" is free, free of ads, and free of tracking. It will provide you with the phone numbers and emails of your representatives and senators. It will also provide you scripts so that you can speak directly on each potential topic. You can also set up daily, weekly, or monthly notifications to remind you.
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@uenticx@lemmy.world 2026-04-17 17:22
Initial rollout: Sir, every device on earth is controlled by someone at least 21 years old on xxxx-01-01 !
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@roserose56@lemmy.zip 2026-04-18 07:47
USA being USA! Bravo!
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@RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-16 20:38
Canadian here. If I can't find a Linux distro that will not comply with this bullshit law, I'll use my GrapheneOS phone and nothing else. Wouldn't be the first time in my life I used a phone for everything.
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@JenitalJouster@lemmy.zip 2026-04-17 18:43
more laws from people who have no idea about anything. let’s say for a sec this isn’t even for mass surveillance (which it is) does verifying your age prevent you from actually being addicted to social medias? it’s the same experience no matter what…this whole thing just shifts onus of social media addiction from big tech companies to us. i implore everyone reading who’s in america to please contact your local representatives. http://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
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@osanna@lemmy.vg 2026-04-18 03:31
I don't wish to live on this planet anymore :/
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@tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 2026-04-17 03:57
I see how this is bad from a privacy standpoint, but how does it affect device ownership?
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@minorkeys@lemmy.world 2026-04-18 07:32
"...and for other purposes."
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@musket528@sopuli.xyz 2026-04-17 19:23
this is insane, but i don't quite understand how will it be pushed on independent linux distros. even if it'll be magically pushed into linux kernel, mfs will just create a fork without that shit... no?
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@musket528@sopuli.xyz 2026-04-17 19:21
glad that i read physical books and write to physical notebooks. moving to cave next week.