Post #115387
2026-01-06 17:01 UTC
Replies (16)
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@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2026-01-06 17:09
I think it’s irresponsible of the Verge to tout an electric motorcycle’s range as “up to 600km”. It’s absolute fantasy. I have an electric dirtbike and a gas bike. My gas bike has an 11.1 L tank and can go about 360km per tank. The highest actual range I’ve seen on an electric motorcycle is about 100km of mixed use (highway and city). Solid state batteries have the potential capability of having _almost_ double the power density as lithium ion. So approx 200-300km (maybe). Pretty solid but doubling THAT is just dishonest and in no way going to happen. You’re claiming to have more power density than internal combustion. That’s just straight up dishonest.
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@curiousaur@reddthat.com 2026-01-06 22:26
The rear wheel of the bike in the picture tells me all of this is completely fantasy.
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@SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2026-01-07 14:03
What is the point in a $37,000 bike with SS battery and 600km of range. ICE bikes get about 200km a tank. No one rides 600km a day on a naked sport bike. If the point of SS batteries is fast charging , then why carry around 33 KWhr of overpriced battery? This is a bike designed by non motorcyclists and marketed on numbers. 1000nm instant torque? That's unrideable. 3.5 sec 0-60 is not fast for a motorcycle, so their math doesn't even make sense. It's just a bunch of numbers. 200kw charging? Who cares, and good luck finding a charger that will do that. Every premium price EV bike company has gone broke.
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@thejml@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-06 17:08
Anyone have a non-video summary/article?
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@ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2026-01-07 11:10
But do they make loud wroom wroom noises? If not half of motorcyclists will not be interested.
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@KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2026-01-08 01:00
I'll belive it when a lab has verified the batteries are actually solid state. The CEO appears to be a grifter and they had no battery prototypes on hand at CES? Smells awfully like a scam.
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@fubarx@lemmy.world 2026-01-06 20:00
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@humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2026-01-07 14:15
Doesn't need both fast charging and huge range. Knock $10k off the price for half the range is a much more appealing product. Battery tech in a much lighter sub 2000w ebike/powerstation is a much bigger win, as this is still 600lbs afaiu.
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@Late-Boomer-57@piefed.ca 2026-01-06 17:43
Arwe there _any_ non-"solid state" battery for motorcycles? What is the generation principle?
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@sturmblast@lemmy.world 2026-01-07 21:01
Sick
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@realitista@lemmus.org 2026-01-11 00:39
[Evidence is mounting that this is a scam](https://youtu.be/aYiVfOpA8HU)
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@yourNewFavouriteUser@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-07 13:31
are solid state batteries even ready for mass production yet ?
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@goatinspace@feddit.org 2026-01-07 02:37
Sounds good. Does it actually work in real world? Why can't they make wheels the same?
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@BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2026-01-07 16:25
Bikes are not a good investment in western countries with long winter seasons, it's dangerous and uncomfortable to ride in cold conditions, so stuff like this is purely for rich people to use as recreational toys in the summer
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@booly@sh.itjust.works 2026-01-07 14:17
Makes me wonder about the wheel's rotational inertia, too. In theory, a hubless wheel could be lower mass overall without the need for a center axle/hub and spokes connecting the outside to the center. But that's all weight saved in the center of the wheel with lower effect on overall rotational inertia. Visually, the picture that makes the thumbnail in this post shows that the brake disc has to be further from the center of the wheel, which I imagine adds a lot more weight (more material necessary for the overall brake disc being a larger circle) and a lot more rotational inertia (further from the center). Maybe the whole design itself can save weight in certain places that make up for the weight added in other places. But I just have a ton of questions, and am overall pretty skeptical of the long term potential of this design. Looks cool, though, I guess.
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@humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2026-01-07 14:19
The motor design has huge performance benefits. Power is like a solid disk motor of the same size. Their previous model claimed much faster 0-60 time, and so I don't get why it dropped, but if true, the discharge rate of battery simply isn't as high as NMC. That would also explain why they have to have both huge range and fast charge.