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@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca

Post #1590459

2026-01-06 17:09 UTC

I think it’s irresponsible of the Verge to tout an electric motorcycle’s range as “up to 600km”. It’s absolute fantasy. I have an electric dirtbike and a gas bike. My gas bike has an 11.1 L tank and can go about 360km per tank. The highest actual range I’ve seen on an electric motorcycle is about 100km of mixed use (highway and city). Solid state batteries have the potential capability of having _almost_ double the power density as lithium ion. So approx 200-300km (maybe). Pretty solid but doubling THAT is just dishonest and in no way going to happen. You’re claiming to have more power density than internal combustion. That’s just straight up dishonest.

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  • @artyom@piefed.social 2026-01-06 18:56

    It's not The Verge. It's Verge Motorcycles. I know, it confused me too.

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  • @dublet@lemmy.world 2026-01-06 18:37

    > I think it’s irresponsible of the Verge to tout an electric motorcycle’s range as “up to 600km”. It’s absolute fantasy. Reached 310.69km with 7% charge on the 20.2kWh battery remaining during a challenge in London. https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/april/verge-electric-bike-distance-record/ It took 16 hours though, so that works out to around 19km/h or 12mph. 🐌

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  • @realitista@lemmus.org 2026-01-06 19:59

    It probably won't do that in anything less than perfect conditions, but it will still be far more than any other electricbike on the road today. It is probably 3x that of classical Lithium Ion already. It's roughly double that of usual NMC batteries, and still a good 50% better than the absolute best NMC. Combine that with no range degradation when consistently charging to 100% and discharging to 0%, no loss of capacity in hot or cold weather, and something like 20x the charge cycles of NMC/LiFePO4, and over the lifetime you will likely start seeing 4 or 5 times the capacity in later stages of vehicle ownerships

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  • @bufalo1973@piefed.social 2026-01-07 10:57

    It's 600 km (in ideal conditions) <- this is the part they don't say.

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  • @SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2026-01-07 13:52

    It's a 33 kwhr battery, cars with that amount of storage get 250km.

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  • @humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2026-01-07 14:46

    "up to" is dishonest to start. They claim on some of their models 600+ km range. It is city mileage though. Solid state batteries claim 400wh/kg, and may be replacing 180wh/kg batteries. That can mean more than 2.5x range city due to reduced weight. The highway mileage is much lower though.

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