Post #1030710
2024-05-31 12:07 UTC
Replies (31)
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@svitvojimilioni@balkan.fedive.rs 2024-05-31 12:09
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social How would you exactly leave EU market ? Ban all ips from eu?
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@khaleesicodes@eupolicy.social 2024-05-31 12:17
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world More detailed analysis by @edri@eupolicy.social can be found here https://edri.org/our-work/be-scanned-or-get-banned/
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That Ursula lady is a like the Ursula in the little mermaid a movie filn
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@HikerGeek@mas.to 2024-05-31 12:25
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social The people who do bad things will just find another way and then innocent users will be left with this. This proposal is a clear message: The government's right to know is more important than your right to privacy.
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@dma@hachyderm.io 2024-05-31 12:59
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social "the chats of employees of security authorities and the military are also to be exempted from chat control" .. this means clients would need to identify who those people are, which is yet another potential privacy and security nightmare. does this actually make me glad the UK isn't in the EU any more so i get to continue using Signal?
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@kainisenni@vocalounge.cafe 2024-05-31 13:08
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world I always wonder how one can be so incredibly dense to not understand that criminals don't care about making tools illegal. Do they imagine this to be their reasoning: "Yeah I used to be a hitman. But now legal apps are scanning texts for indicators of murder. I'm not switching to illegal apps to communicate with my clients, that's a line I simply will not cross." I'll have emigrated before this enters into force, but the precedent it could set scares me. This normalises CCP crap.
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@Pablojordi@mastodont.cat 2024-05-31 13:12
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social It seems like chat control proposal is the wrong approach regardless of the noble intention of protecting minors. I wonder if any of the Spanish candidates in the EU elections have taken a clear stance about this. Any idea, @albertcuesta@mastodont.cat ?
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@AngelaScholder@mastodon.energy 2024-05-31 13:13
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social My Signal account is on my UK mobile number, but since Brexshit my mobile operator has screwed us in that we can not call without an EU bundle, and then the EU bundle isn't seen as a paid event. So, basically the only thing we can do is top-up within the 180 days. We clearly need to switch mobile operator. But, maybe my Signal account might remain unaffected. Client side scanning would be the beginning of Chinese practices is the EU.
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@katharta@quietzero.net 2024-05-31 13:29
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social Keep fighting the good fight.
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@algowatching@social.nkb.fr 2024-05-31 13:53
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social Couldn't you do like European car makers? One version with filter for the authorities, one without for users?
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@ruza@mastodon.social 2024-05-31 14:09
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social I am not too surprised that the EU is threatening its constituency. I hope you will not do the same. 💪👊
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@dalias@hachyderm.io 2024-05-31 14:11
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social I think you've clarified this before, but "leave the EU market" means "treat the EU as a hostile regime whose people we need to provide circumvention tools from outside the jurisdiction" rather than "leave EU users behind", right?
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@LiberalArtist@mastodon.social 2024-05-31 14:30
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social This article said one proposal would prevent people who opted out of scanning from sharing links, which seems like a great illustration of the futility of this project (even aside from its harmfulness). If you can’t write “example.com”, you can surely write “example dot com”, let alone any fancier sort of encoding. Look at all the ways people get around Instagram’s lack of links!
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@feld@bikeshed.party 2024-05-31 15:11
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @signalapp@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social You're a free chat app why do you keep using the word "market" like you're a for-profit company? What goods and services are you selling to the European market?
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@X_BSD@mstdn.social 2024-05-31 16:08
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world EU becoming China, Rusia and North Korea. The privacy is dead!!! @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social
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@oz@mastodon.social 2024-05-31 16:13
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social Happy to read that, even if that's not really a new song from Signal. https://signal.org/blog/uk-online-safety-bill/
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@8tpercent@fosstodon.org 2024-05-31 16:49
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social Microsoft "recall" and messaging apps....
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@jrp@hub.kliklak.net 2024-05-31 17:09
@@Mer__edith@mastodon.world -> @@edri@eupolicy.social has a good read on this, too: https://edri.org/our-work/be-scanned-or-get-banned/
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@lvl3k@mastodon.social 2024-05-31 18:32
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social As some politicians do use Signal, it will be interesting if they saw off a branch from under themselves.
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@elfin@mstdn.social 2024-05-31 19:38
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social Can we do this to surveil you? Think of the children! No. Ok, how about this? Um, no. This? Goddamnit! It's the same damn pig you just switched shades of lipstick!!! Ok, how about this. Oh FFS.
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@d0pp3l6ang3r@infosec.exchange 2024-05-31 19:49
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world this is why I love signal. Thank you for fighting the good fight 🫡
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@eob@social.coop 2024-05-31 21:04
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social EU citizens, a timely reminder that you will be able to vote for your member of Parliament in about a week This problematic law is coming from the Council (the upper house of the EU legislative branch representing the member governments) It can be stopped by either the Parliament (the lower house of the EU legislative branch, representing the people) or the Commission (the EU executive branch, over whose composition the Parliament has some influence) MEPs have power
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@TheyCallMeHacked@social.tchncs.de 2024-06-01 05:41
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social as a European, I can support that choice, but I wish for Signal to reconsider being packaged on f-droid if that happens, so that truely privacy aware people can still circumvent the EU-directive
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@gsymon@mstdn.social 2024-06-01 07:59
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social What would your solution be for the child abuse issue?
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@om@witter.cz 2024-06-01 08:28
I wonder what Element would do, @matthew@mastodon.matrix.org. Does this actually concern #Matrix directly or is this a threat primarily to the clients? @matrix@mastodon.matrix.org
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@queenbee4ever@mastodon.social 2024-06-01 08:38
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social @Piratenpartij@social.globalpirates.net Ze blijven het maar proberen. Stem aankomende #EP2024 donderdag 6 juni voor #privacy vriendelijke partijen. Laten we er in de EU ajb geen surveillance staat van maken. De boefjes gaan echt niet minder rottigheid uithalen. Die gaan gewoon het anders aanpakken. En ondertussen wordt iedereen gecontroleerd door? #pvv #vvd #bbb #nsc #cda #sgp …
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@cholling@social.sdf.org 2024-06-01 11:55
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world @echo_pbreyer@digitalcourage.social When will your privacy guarantees include not tying Signal accounts to phone numbers and not scanning users' contacts?
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👀👀👀
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Well this doesn't sound good at all. 🤨
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Saving Europe during WW2 was a mistake
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That is the principled choice.