Post #102149
2025-12-30 23:28 UTC
Replies (38)
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@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2025-12-31 00:16
because reddit actively prevents promotion of the fediverse and its platforms. if you want to help, convince an entire sub to move their community to the fediverse. we need all the people we can to realize they do not need reddits walled garden. also, keep in mine lemmy.world is one site of hundreds and only 1 of dozens of platforms that intercommunicate. different platforms offer different features. im using https://moist.catsweat.com which runs the mbin platform. no lemmy involved, but i can see and respond do your post. check out https://fedidb.com for example heres my interface hovering your account shows something like karma and includes downvotes;
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@tyler@programming.dev 2025-12-30 23:59
Reddit removes (or at least did at one point) any lemmy links or posts trying to get people to switch to Lemmy.
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@dreamos82@lemmy.world 2025-12-30 23:40
Because in my opinion people are used to reddit, and is the biggest one, baiscally everyone else is there, why changing for a platform where you have evem to choose " an what? An instance?"), with a fraction of the users. I stopped using reddit after the api rules changes, i quit twiitter as sson as that nazi guy bought it. The main socials I use are mastodon and lemmy. How many of my friends are on madtodon? 1 or 2, how many of them are active there? 0. And i think my nbers are even higher than wjat i think they should be because most of my friemds works in the IT People unfortunately just wants everything quickly, without hassle, and are not prone to change. A question on reddit? Probably you'll get an answer in few hours. On lemmy? You are luckynif you'll get one. I have a small crafting page, that I'm trying to spread using only mastodon, it's much harder. These are the reasons I think. And most people don't even care about the content of if their timeline is 85% ads and suggested pages. They will just scroll. Algorithms are shitty, but who cares. Everyone is there...
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@davel@lemmy.ml 2025-12-30 23:51
Among other reasons, there’s no marketing budget.
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@HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 02:19
Amongst stated reasons, "signing up" is more difficult here. Its not as straightforward a process and content isn't as spoon fed to you as other platforms. The tech literacy needed to get here isn't high, but as I learned the average tech literacy is abysmal. About 10ish years ago when I was 14, I helped some people print something. They tried printing something from a computer plugged into the printer, an error popped up saying "printer not connected". I thought, thr printer must be, yknow disconnected. Some 6 people had gatherd trying to troubleshoot this but were stumped. I pointed out the error message that kept coming up, didn't click. I followed the cables from the pc to the printer, it was disconnected, I plugged it in and reported back. They where stumped on how I possibly knew what was wrong or how to fix it. I am not good with technology, but im good enough to know im not good with technology. I have found most people, even those younger or same age tend to not be tech literate. Finding the application and filling it out for any random federated instance may seem like nothing but it requires an ammount of literacy many Americans dont have.
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@ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 00:00
As long as it stays semi-obscure, the powers that be won't notice it much so maybe it's a blessing and not a curse. Reddit didn't start as a shithole, you know. 😕
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@Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 04:07
On top of the myriad of things others have mentioned here, it hasn't gotten bad enough/inconvenient enough for the average redditor to switch platforms en masse. The API fiasco moved the needle a little bit, but not by enough. The multiple ban waves moved it even less. Theres still millions of people on reddit and that disincentivizes anyone to make the first move. My hope is that when they get rid of old.reddit, it will cause another mass migration that could tip the scales a bit more, but I'm not holding my breath. Because now, reddit has hundreds of thousands of bots creating fake engagement that simulates human activity to those unaware of LLM-pattern speech. So that's another unknown unknown. Here's to hoping, though.
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@frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 2025-12-31 06:36
This isn’t an issue of Lemmy itself, but I realized after I made the switch that I personally am a bit burnt-out from the Reddit model in general at this exact moment. I’m using other Fedi apps more at this moment in time. I’ll probably be more active later in the year, but it’s a nice little break being on the smaller Fediverse apps where things are a bit more personal with the people I’m interacting with, which has been fun for me. I think Lemmy/Piefed will grow to get more Reddit sized with time. Personally, I get like 10x the engagement on comments and posts here than I ever did on Reddit, which to me makes it much more joyful to be around.
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@linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de 2025-12-31 15:13
> It’s almost exactly a copy of reddit The magic of reddit isn't just the structure of the website, it's the fact that there are so many people posting to diverse niche subjects. Although one structural thing lemmy is really lacking is the wiki and post flare components; those help give experts a reason to make effortful contributions as they do not fade into the ether after a few days. That said, if reddit was new in 2025 or 2020, I don't think it would take off as much. It gained popularity in a previous time of the internet and is now coasting off that.
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 01:59
Reddit is bigger, more established, and Lemmy is smaller and more unknown. As reddit gets worse Lemmy will get bigger.
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@Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 01:40
The network effect. It's big enough that small forums get enough posts to stay active which keeps more people using it. For example Lemmy has a 3d printer forum that has a few posts a week. Reddit has forums not just for 3d printing but for every specific model of printer and each gets a much activity as Lemmy's generic forum. If I'm searching for something, Google will show Reddit content but not Lemmy because there isn't an answer on Lemmy.
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@Abrinoxus@lemmy.today 2025-12-31 21:08
Why should it be? Embrace this moment when it is both active and not yet destroyed by the mindless masses. For me this is the perfect size of community
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@Professorozone@lemmy.world 2026-01-01 01:29
I came here during the Exodus. I just did a search on similar sites to Reddit. Lemmy was at the top. Been here ever since.
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@Fizz@lemmy.nz 2025-12-31 00:49
Its hard to break into peoples minds with no advertising budget.We can't tell people on reddit about Lemmy because reddit bans your account. Lemmy got a ton of traffic after the api black out and it did an incredible Job at retaining a lot of those users. There were 200k active users and Lemmy was much more unstable at the time. Active users did fall off as expected but 50k stayed for 2 years. Thats great in my opinion. If we had another migration wave I reckon the retention would be even higher. For someone to switch from reddit to Lemmy three things need to happen 1. They need to know it exists 2. They need to dislike reddit or centralised corporate controlled social media on an ideological level. 3. They need something disruptive to happen. Either a ban or a change they dont like.
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@olbaidiablo@lemmy.ca 2025-12-31 23:45
I'm here because I like the way the upvote/downvote feature works on here better than Reddit. Theoretically you could have equal upvotes and downvotes on a post on Reddit and it would look like there is almost no engagement at all. Here it's far more honest.
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@dontsayaword@piefed.social 2025-12-31 00:09
It's popular enough for me
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@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 15:02
The joining process is too cumbersome and a few things like cross posting across instances are way too complex for people to easily understand.
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@baines@piefed.social 2025-12-31 04:16
over half of reddit is bots, little to no bots here
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@Digit@lemmy.wtf 2025-12-31 23:53
> popular How popular is it? > more popular How much more popular are you thinking of? > website Just the one instance? > but most people that use reddit haven’t heard about it. Phew! ;)
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@hyacin@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 19:15
We like it this way. Please stop pulling this thread.
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@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 01:18
There's only so many Linux furries on the planet
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@FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 2025-12-31 00:15
You are applying the thinking of wholly owned platforms and how to judge their success. They have to grab a sizable and hopefully growing number of users who keep coming back to be successful. Because they need the data from their users and/or their eyeballs on ads for commercial success. None of that applies to the fediverse really. It can grow as slowly as it wants to or not grow at all. As long as there is a small percentage of people who spend time and money to keep the instances going. This laced corsage of economical necessities is much tighter for a centrally hosted platform which will have a thirsty boardroom to answer to. Popularity isn't so much the factor why reddit is/was more of a success, it is/was the quality of information others got from it and it definitely used to be the ease of getting to it. People who got pissed off at reddit will slowly add to our numbers here (or another iteration of a service like Lemmy) as the idea of becoming your own algorithm becomes more normal for the non-techy minded users as well. We're playing a long game that we don't even want to win.
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@WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 2025-12-31 00:22
At this point I've probably been banned from reddit over 5 times. Usually for sarcastic remarks.
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@eli@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 01:14
In my experience, people will move with their interests. I've been using reddit for probably 10-15 years. I used to send links to my wife(then girlfriend), but she never *used* reddit. In the last year she made a reddit account after moving off of tiktok. Now I'm on Lemmy pretty much full time because I prefer smaller communities and more specific topics, also less normies. Trying to browse reddit is like talking with boomers and AI now. No thanks.
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@dorkofeverything@lemmy.ml 2026-01-01 04:49
It takes time for network effects to build up and I suspect they (the entrenched, the silos) know that You can fuck a community and it takes years to recover My latest complaint about Reddit: old reddit (old.reddit.com) is so broken that clicking on your inbox doesn't make the notifications go away Endless VC hype cycle. Fuck your users, returns are all that matters
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@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2025-12-31 02:13
Because it's not *a* website. It's a connected network of sites that requires a bit of a learning curve to really use.
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@aeiou@piefed.social 2025-12-31 01:21
shh, popularity will make it worse
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@Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2025-12-31 22:15
I don't know, but I like it this size. Feels homey. Except for the large communist presence.
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@MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 15:37
Many people stick with what they know and often won't or can't change unless forced to. Being first to market creates a persistent market majority.
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@dRLY@lemmy.ml 2026-01-02 03:28
Even Reddit wasn't "popular" on the levels that it has been for over a decade. It is more about time and people finding it like they did with early Reddit (and Digg before that). New people will come as long as they see active instances and as more helpful (or even funny) posts/comments show up in search results. Kind of like how a lot of questions in search engines will show basically the same questions being asked on Reddit. Also Lemmy is a little bit confusing to new people that aren't used to how Fediverse/Lemmyverse sites work. Not very hard, but does feel a bit overwhelming since stuff they are used to are super centralized. For now most instances kind of feel like BBS/forums back in the 90s/00s, but with a Reddit (or similar sites) kind of layout/interaction style. Which I like since I had a lot of great times on old forums. The subs are still small enough to actually see familiar users show up and have better vibes on them. Though it does mean that new/niche subs have the chance of not getting enough people to get going, and have more people join and post new things.
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@IWW4@lemmy.zip 2025-12-31 01:35
Mostly because it is a pain in the ass to use.
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@davel@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 04:06
>Advertising is based on passive attitude and thrives on negative attitudes. This is a nice-sounding story that flatters our egos, but unless scientific studies corroborate, that’s all it is.
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@comfy@lemmy.ml 2025-12-31 10:18
Watermarking is great when there is a strong enough community to make original content. I'm sure there are communities like that, but I'm not in many of the hobby communities here.
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@brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2025-12-31 03:55
Reddit’s UX is *awful* though, at least on the website. But I guess most people use the phone apps?
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@supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2025-12-31 15:18
> If I were conservative I think this site would drive me crazy. Good
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2026-01-01 01:31
☭ Join us! ☭
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@UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2026-01-01 01:58
You are a conservative.
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@silentjohn@lemmy.ml 2026-01-02 01:38
makes me wonder why libs would be scared of leftists honestly...