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@RiverRock@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
We get it, you’re still mad at the commies for not falling in line behind Girlboss Hitler
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@Archangel1313@lemmy.ca on lemmy.ca Open parent
No. I’m mad that the American left is so politically uneducated that they can’t tell the difference between a Liberal and a literal Fascist. You guys all think they’re the same…ev me though from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals almost as much as they hate Socialists. And it makes me sad that people don’t even realize that it’s the Fascists that want you to think the Liberals are worse than they are…all while convincing the Liberals that Socialists are the ones that want to take away their freedoms.
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@eldavi@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent

… from a historical standpoint, Fascists hate Liberals …

they’re the same thing where it matters; you need to go back and study history that isn’t written by a capitalist.

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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
The Nazis worked hand in hand with liberals, and after the war liberals helped protect them and use them for the US space program and to lead organizations like NATO.
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@Cowbee@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
The liberals only opposed fascism once it was clear that the Nazis were going to attack them as well. Fascists like Batista in Cuba were worked with to the very end, never once opposing them. As for the soviets, they never did collaborate with the Nazis. What happened was the soviets spent an entire decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, while the liberals were gleefully working with the Nazis. The soviets signed a non-aggression pact on the eve of war to buy time.
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@QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 15d
Lol! Wut? The Soviets didn’t form an “anti-Nazi alliance”…they were allied with the Nazis. They made a deal with them to carve up Eastern Europe between their two empires. This was literally the same cynical opportunism that led the Americans to give sanctuary to Nazi scientists after the war. If this means that Liberals are somehow naturally aligned with fascism, in your mind…then so are Communists, by the same criteria. It simply isn’t true, either way. It’s amazing that every comment you post is so embarrassingly wrong. The USSR spent years trying to build an anti-Nazi alliance. 1933 they proposed collective security at the League of Nations. 1935 they signed mutual defense pacts with France and Czechoslovakia. Spring 1939 they sat in Moscow for months begging Britain and France for a real triple alliance. The West stalled. Refused to guarantee the Baltics. Refused to let the Red Army cross Poland to actually fight Hitler. Poland’s elite, more scared of workers than of Nazis, said no too and instead joined Hitler in attacking Czechoslovakia. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact happened because liberals handed Hitler Eastern Europe rather than work with socialists. When Soviet troops entered eastern Poland September 17 1939, the Polish state had already collapsed. Government fled to Romania September 15. Warsaw was burning. The army was broken. The lands the USSR moved into? Not Poland proper. Territories Poland had seized and occupied by force in 1919-1921 from Belarus, Ukraine, and Lithuania. And spare me the nonsense about liberals and fascists. They share a foundation: defense of capitalist property. When capital feels threatened, liberalism drops the mask. Chile 1973. Indonesia 1965. Greece 1967. The Soviet Union abolished the capitalist class. That is a total category difference. Then there is denazification. The contrast couldn’t be clearer. In the Soviet zone, former Nazis went to labor camps. They worked. They earned minimum wage like other inmates. In the West? Operation Paperclip handed over 1,600+ Nazi scientists, officers, and spies. Wernher von Braun, who used slave labor to build V-2 rockets, became head of NASA’s Apollo program. Adolf Heusinger, Hitler’s Chief of the General Staff, became Chairman of the NATO Military Committee. Johannes Steinhoff, Nazi ace, also chaired NATO’s military committee. Heinz Reinefarth, who massacred civilians in Warsaw, became a respected mayor in West Germany. I genuinely cannot fathom how someone can be this historically, politically, and materially illiterate and still type with such confidence.
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