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@mavu@discuss.tchncs.de on discuss.tchncs.de Open parent
While this sounds like a good idea, leaving individual decisions to people, longterm it is quite dumb. if you let an LLM solve your software dev problems, you learn nothing. You don’t get better at handling this problem, you don’t get faster, you don’t get experience in spotting the same problem and having a solution ready. you don’t train junior devs this way, and in 20 years there will be (or would be without the bubble popping) a massive need for skilled software developers. (and other specialists in other fields. Better pray that medical doctors handle their profession differently…) you really enjoy tweaking a prompt, dealing with “lying” LLMs and the occasional deleted harddrive? Is this really what you want to do as a job? (bonus point) Would your company be ok with someone paying a remote worker to do his tasks for a fraction of the salary, and then do nothing? I doubt that. so, apparently it does matter how the work gets done.
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@yogthos@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Old enough to remember how people made these same arguments about writing in anything but assembly, using garbage collection, and so on. Technology moves on, and every time there’s a new way to do things people who invested time into doing things the old way end up being upset. You’re just doing moral panic here, and it’s frankly tiring to listen to.
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@zbyte64@awful.systems on awful.systems Open parent
All the technologies you listed behave deterministically, or at least predictably enough that we generally don’t have to worry about surprises from that abstraction layer. Technology does not just move on, practitioners need to actually find it practical beyond their next project that satisfies the shareholders.
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@yogthos@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Again, you’re discussing tools you haven’t actually used and you clearly have no clue how they work. If you had, then you would realize that agents can work against tests, which act as a contract they fill. I use these tools on daily basis and I have no idea what these surprises you’re talking about are. As a practitioner, I find these things plenty practical.
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@zbyte64@awful.systems on awful.systems Open parent
I’ve literally integrated LLMs into a materials optimizations routine at Apple. It’s dangerous to assume what strangers do and do not know.
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@yogthos@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
I’m not assuming anything. Either you have not used these tools seriously, or you’re intentionally lying here. Your description of how these tools work and their capabilities is at odds with reality. It’s dangerous to make shit up when talking to people who are well versed in a subject.
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@zbyte64@awful.systems on awful.systems Open parent
Your description of the tools was to make an inaccurate comparison. But sure, I am the “dangerous” one for showing how your examples are deterministic while gAI is not.
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@yogthos@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
I didn’t make any inaccurate comparisons. The whole deterministic LLM argument was just the straw man you were making. I’m merely pointing out your dishonesty here, if you choose to perceive it as a personal attack that’s on you.
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@zbyte64@awful.systems · Dec 14
Honestly not sure what I expected in terms of a response but this is certainly an interesting reaction. “Calling someone dishonest is not a personal attack” is certainly a take. It’s also interesting that dishonesty is your automatic conclusion when there are other alternatives when someone approached you with a different professional experience; absent is the tendency of expert practitioners to be curious about contextual clues that can lead to different outcomes. I’m going to take your criticism in good faith and recognize this is probably the standard you hold yourself to: that any part of yourself that does not comport to the current ideal is to be treated with suspicion.
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