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@CosmoNova@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I don‘t know of a single truly open source solutions for AI from China. China doesn‘t seem very keen on open source as a whole to be honest. That is unless they can monetize on open source projects from outside of China. Their companies love doing that.
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@A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on feddit.org Open parent
DeepSeek the software is open source (MIT license).
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@TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Unless the dataset, weighting, and every aspect is open source, it’s not truly open source, as the OSI defines it.
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@Buffalox@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Bullshit, the dataset is massive, and a dataset may include bias. You would always want to use a dataset that fir your needs.
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@wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone on piefed.blahaj.zone Open parent
no, your changing the definition of open source software. which has been around a lot longer than AI has. source code is what defines open source. what deepseek has is open weights. they publish the results of their learning only. not the source that produced it.
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@Buffalox@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
your changing the definition of open source software. techwireasia.com/…/china-open-source-ai-models-gl… The tide has turned. With the December 2024 launch of DeepSeek’s free-for-all V3 large language model (LLM) and the January 2025 release of DeepSeek’s R1 (the AI reasoning model that rivals the capabilities of OpenAI’s O1), the open-source movement started by Chinese firms has sent shockwaves through Silicon Valley and Wall Street. I’ve read similar claims in other articles, I have no idea why they would call it open source if it’s not?
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@wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone on piefed.blahaj.zone Open parent
can you show me the actual source code? the human readable code, not the weights.
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@Buffalox@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
The (claimed) source: github.com/deepseek-ai Investigating further I can see it is NOT open source. All the articles saying that are lying, probably unknowingly just as I believed the claim, they probably did too, and I’m NOT being sarcastic! I have no idea why publishing these “weights” is considered open source, it has nothing to do with Open Source as defined by OSI, which I believe has a historical right to the term. I apologize.
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@wholookshere@piefed.blahaj.zone · Dec 13
forgive my snarkiness. its usually the quickest way to this realization.
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