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Yes, but if the OS was not designed in California and you are not based in California (you’re not Windows, basically) - I fail to see how they can meaningfully compel anyone to follow this. Moreover, even if an OS somehow could know the users age - that doesn’t automatically mean all other software that exists automatically reads it and responds to it. Does the law compel anyone making software to recognise this?

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Windows, and any other OS will be illegal in California unless it implements this. Apple, for one, is headquartered in California. So, the OS wont work until the user verifies their age somehow. Moreover, even if an OS somehow could know the users age - that doesn’t automatically mean all other software that exists automatically reads it and responds to it as necessary. Does the law compel anyone making software to recognise this? Did you not read my comment? Anyone writing software for an OS that implements this, can be sued (in California) if it ignores the API signals from the OS and allows access to age-restricted content.

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Windows, and any other OS will be illegal in California unless it implements this. Right, as I said - I just don’t see how this is meaningfully enforceable. It’s a complete farce. Apple, for one, is headquartered in California. Oh, I forgot Apple. Sure. But there are many other OS. How on earth can they credibly enforce this? Did you not read my comment? Anyone writing software for an OS that implements this, can be sued (in California) if it ignores the API signals from the OS and allows access to age-restricted content. Yeah, this is just not meaningfully enforceable. Big companies will follow, but it would mostly be ignored by everyone else.

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@Skavau__dup_73871@piefed.social on piefed.social Open parent

Is your argument really “this won’t affect linux, so it doesn’t matter” ? At the very least, FOSS development by anyone in California will be a problem, as the law quite literally names “persons” as potentially liable. I’m taking the position that this is largely unenforceable at a software and OS level beyond larger players that come from California or specifically do a lot of trade in California. The reality remains, the US is the most thirsty for this kind of thing. Not the least. This specifically is quite different to most other efforts. Not sure if it might get constitutionally tested.

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… So this is not a concern to you? The fact that there are people in leadership positions that want this, and have reasons why they want this, is below note. And not worth opposing? This will lead to infrastructure, that should not exist, existing. That it can be avoided is not a solution. It should not be built in the first place.

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@Skavau__dup_73871@piefed.social on piefed.social Open parent

It is a concern, I just don’t know how it’s meaningfully enforceable at scale. Just like OSA. What do you want me to do about it personally? I never supported the idea.

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@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz on sopuli.xyz Open parent

I’d like you to realize that “the USA who is the least likely country to implement these laws” is literally the opposite of current reality. They are making some of the greatest efforts to make legally mandated user and age tracking a thing, as well as legally mandated content-gating depending who the user is.

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@Skavau__dup_73871@piefed.social · Mar 05

I’d like you to realize that “the USA who is the least likely country to implement these laws” is literally the opposite of current reality. In comparison to Europe/UK/AUS which is far further along this road (and implemented social media age requirements), absolutely. Also, apparently it’s just a checkbox as far as this particular California law goes.

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