you’ve just been meeting socialists that know you have a weird anti"-ism" thing No. I have been meeting people who don’t even know about the word.

“Its 2026 and in my third week here on North Sentinel Island, I’ve discovered that, despite a century of a world super power using the word ‘socialist’ in the name of their country, somehow these people have never heard the word, ‘socialism’”. That’s how you sound. Once again, I don’t give a shit what people call themselves, so if they are good guys, they are on the same side as me, because that’s the side I’ve chosen? People claiming to be socialists but they’re not actually socialists, then they’re not socialists. That’s not a bad guy/good guy thing, that’s just how words work. Again, there are incredible people who have been vital to the socialist causes who would never call themselves socialist, and there are no problems with that. My problem is with you specifically. The label isn’t my agenda beyond just trying to get you to stop caring about what someone.calls themselves and start caring about what they do.

“Its 2026 and in my third week here on North Sentinel Island, I’ve discovered that, despite a century of a world super power using the word ‘socialist’ in the name of their country, somehow these people have never heard the word, ‘socialism’”. Well, some people just never learnt English

That word only exists in English? That’s weird, I wonder then how so many people from non-Engliah speaking countries learned about it then?

Yeah I was being facetious. But a better way to say that is - Not everyone has the time to subscribe to all such things, no matter how widespread it is. And I am saying this as one that literally has “Socialist” in the constitution of my country.

Then, I don’t know what to say to you. Having conversations with low information people with yield low information results. That is in no way relevant to what we’re talking about. You might as well have said “Yeah, but lots of people I know have never even heard the word ‘fission’ before” while in a thread talking about nuclear science.

Exactly my point. People can have low information about your domain and still be helpful people.

Please go back and read the several different times I say exactly that in my previous comments. We don’t disagree about that. We just seem to disagree that people who do use “-ism” labels can also be helpful people.