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@Digit@lemmy.wtf on lemmy.wtf Open parent
Edit 1: I am NOT defending conservative views, I think that they should not be given a platform in the fediverse. So you’d rather eliminate their voice to conserve the status quo here? Are you sure you’re NOT doing that?
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@4am@lemmy.zip on lemmy.zip Open parent
Don’t ”paradox of tolerance” this shit, you know we shouldn’t allow hateful rhetoric here. It’s the reason all the other platforms are fucking terrible now.
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@Digit@lemmy.wtf on lemmy.wtf Open parent
I’d rather offer refutations and sound cogent counter-arguments, than leave them to run off unchallenged, doubling down with a sense of being right and up against the evil censors, conspiring in whatever echo chamber of bigotry they then find themselves welcomed to.
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@Flyberius@hexbear.net on hexbear.net Open parent
You think they are going to read your cogent counter-argument?
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@Digit@lemmy.wtf on lemmy.wtf Open parent
More chance of that if offered, than not.
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@RiverRock@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
Look at the last 10 years of trying that
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@Digit@lemmy.wtf on lemmy.wtf Open parent
[Has worked quite well for me. Though I couldn’t put numbers on it, like Daryl Davis can. They’re not pigeons. That’s a flawed analogy, only further revealing your confirmation bias and dehumanising prejudice.] I guess we should tell Daryl Davis to stop too, similarly citing the past years of having doing so proving to work well, and just continue to dehumanise and smear those he’d speak to, as beyond help, and ignore the hundreds he’s converted from the KKK and Nazi party, by just talking with them. Or… maybe try it, persistently, non-hostile, not becoming them, not reaffirming their noxious combative ways back to them, instead of just hatefully dehumanising them, instead of reaffirming to them that they are their rotten ideas, instead of censoring aand isolating and banning them to their echo chamber and you to yours, instead of all that polarising groupthink nonsense, just keep exposing them to better ways of being, and seeing that neither you, nor any of the targets of their misguided hate, are the monsters they imagine in their ignorance.
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@RiverRock@lemmy.ml on lemmy.ml Open parent
muh Daryl Davis There are gestapo killing people, shut the fuck up and get clued into the situation you dumbass worm.
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@Digit@lemmy.wtf · Mar 02
Quite the catastrophizing there. I sympathise. I too have CPTSD [Edit: incidentally, in part, from nearly being democided by Nazis]. Much to heal yet. It’s plausible Daryl Davis’s contacts could proliferate better ideas within the system, since they’ll know many more nazis yet. Flexes the degrees of separation, see? More opportunities to spread the seeds of curiosity to dispel the ignorant hate. Flaps the butterfly wings to make storms around the world. Handy to have that “work smarter” tool in the toolbox. I’m not sure why you want to dissuade from having such in the toolbox. It seems a better win, to not just end a Nazi, but gain an ally. And it’s not like killing Nazis has a de-Nazifying effect on the Nazi’s loved ones. More likely to make them double down, for violent vengeance, contributing to the escalating cycle of reciprocal violence and the psychology to dominate. Might not be the best way. Lucky the toolbox holds more than just a hammer. … A hammer that may as well be labelled Nazi, with which to end Nazis by. I’m not sure if out-Nazi’ing Nazi’s even gets us less Nazis. Just different ones. Would like to know more about the figures… like who’s managing to end more Nazis than Daryl Davis has, and using what method, to what type of results? And to what level of which abilities required… so that perhaps more people can contribute. Because I doubt many people have it in them to be a rifleman at the wall. … And how do we get the Nazis to the wall? We’re to use the rule of law, and not just a rabid witch hunt for anyone who an accuser has a grievance of? This hammer’s getting fiddly to wield, once thinking it through past the immediate angry catharsis of the idea.
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