@babe There are car people here, and motorcycle people too- I am both. I truly love driving, like I really do. Took my test on a snowy day, dad and uncle are very skilled race car drivers, etc. Car people really do tend to own their cars for a long time - mine is a 2014 hybrid that I love and will keep till it dies- and then I will fix it. Its job is to carry me places my motorcycle can't - snow, or places where I need large items. I bought my motorcycle in 2013. I will ride it till I physically can't. I've had the beast 70% disassembled in my living room a couple of times for maintenance. Yeah I love driving, I love cars, I love motors. But I bet you I use less fuel than most, especially most people who commute on fossil fuels like I do. And, I'm fucking broke. I can't afford to replace a vehicle, I can't afford to add one, and I don't want to be runover in this bike-hostile town. So I get where the heat comes from, but some of us are bound to using fuel to travel. Shitting on us isn't going to accomplish anything.