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@wavebeam@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I heard the heavier ones love it when you call them ICEburgs
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@orioler25@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Why is it important to make a fat joke about Nazis? Did you run out of things to make fun of them for being Nazis? Seriously y’all, for all the people on this site who fancy themselves as “leftists” or “progressive,” y’all use eugenicist talking points fucking costantly. You gotta stop making fun of Nazis for shit that has nothing to do with them being Nazis. If your only way to make fun of these people is to target other groups, I’m not sure what you hate about them besides the aesthetics.
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@mycodesucks@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Because calling them Nazis doesn’t affect them - they’re proud of it. I don’t particularly care about being ACCURATE with those pieces of trash, and my attempts to do so would only be taken by them as a sign of weakness. It’s about getting to them psychologically and showing them I don’t respect them in a language they can understand. I get that the language is offensive to people who are not them as well, but it’s like a gun - it’s not just about the weapon, it’s about who you point it at. If it gets to Nazi bastards, I’m going to use it.
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@orioler25@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
Oh awesome, could you explain how making fun of fat people constitutes psychological warfare against Nazis? It’s not like a gun, because a gun is a fucking inanimate object, and society and culture are not. When you say that fatness is something that is akin to the same level of moral depravity as subscribing to genocidal politics, you are reproducing fascist constructions of the ideal human body and the relationship between physical deformity and social degradation. Liberals have used ageism, ableism, queerohobia and transphobia, racism, and yes, fatphobia to make fun of Nazis because most of them have no idea what is wrong about fascism besides the distastefulness of their tactics. It’s not about the language being “offensive,” it’s about anti-fascism. You wanna be a fascist or not?
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@HasturInYellow@lemmy.world on lemmy.world Open parent
I also don’t really care about offending people, but claiming that they are conflating fatness with being a Nazi is ludicrous. Them being fat isn’t worse than them being a Nazi, you braindead, victimhood-seeking pillouck. It is just offensive to say to them and makes them sad. Trying to police every word that people say is also highly fascist. You wanna be a fascist or not? You really are trying to twist what language means. We use words to be understood and you seem intent on mischaracterizing and misattributing the meaning of words when it suits you.
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This one is way more zealous than the other one, refer to the other comment for an explanation of the connection. It isn’t that it’s mean, you dummy, it’s that the underlying values of this joke are in fact fascist in their orientation and, because people like you exist, it is an effective way to promote those values. If you need an example, think of the jokes about these people that reference inbreeding with the presumption that it is correlated with poor intellectual and cognitive ability, and therefore validates the idea that these moral qualities are related to genetic qualities (there is also a classist element in this joke given where they are oriented in the US geographically). Even if there is science to suggest that this is potentially a real consequence of inbreeding, I hope I don’t have to explain even more clearly to you why it is problematic to naturalize the correlation between genetics and the danger one group poses to society at large. You’ve tried to lecture me on language, but you don’t seem to know what any of these words mean, which is why you are so vulnerable to the manipulation that they promote. You think every fascist is just what, dumber than you? You don’t think that maybe there’s a way to “trick” you into subscribing to the same values they do, especially if you already subscribe to liberalism wholeheartedly as what appears to be the case here? You don’t get to choose the consequences of your actions, you can only inform yourself so that you can make better decisions in the future. If the effect of this joke is that it reproduces the idea that there are physical markers for moral depravity, then you either have to admit that you want it to have that function or change the way you understand these terms and the context they exist in. Some fascists choose to be fascists, most of them just don’t think about it.
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