@KennyPark If I recall the Bible correctly, the part I hang up on is, you know how people keep trying to predict the Rapture? The Bible, I think, is very clear that no one may predict when the end times will happen. Makes sense. You're supposed to just live a good life, not convert at the last moment. So how would one believe that one can *force* it to happen when desired? Modern-day American evangelicals just make no sense at all.